big al
43 posts
Jul 15, 2005
6:42 PM
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Hi everybody,
I have a couple of systems I use but I was wondering how you all judge the depth of a spinner? Lets use the example of an 11 bird fly where a particular bird has caught your eye. How do you guys measure it's depth?
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Big Al
"High Plains Spinner Loft"
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Bluesman
Pigeon Fancier
363 posts
Jul 15, 2005
7:02 PM
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Big Al. I use the 1001,1002 method.It is the best for me and I can still concentrate on the roller.Don,t take much to confuse me.LOL.How a judge ever scores a kit I don,t know.I have heard of some using a stop watch but I would have to look at it and would miss something. David
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MCCORMICKLOFTS
77 posts
Jul 15, 2005
10:07 PM
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Like David, I use the good old fashioned "count the seconds" method. It's fairly accurate for most rollers. The exact depth isn't important as they will roll different depths and seldom ever exactly the same footage. I like to watch mine roll when they are down real low as that tends to allow comparisons with objects such as Thor mentioned. Of course there are those that will argue that a real fast spinner often falls slower. This can be true, which is why I prefer the time in the roll over thrashing my brain wondering if the roll was 35 feet or 40..LOL.
Brian.
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big al
44 posts
Jul 16, 2005
5:43 PM
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Thanks guys,
I was curious.
I too use the old school land marks like telephone poles. I also try and judge by how far the bird falls from the kit after a roll. I do it by comparing it to one that did not roll on a particular break and estimate the distance between the two.
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Big Al
"High Plains Spinner Loft"
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rollerpigeon
Site Moderator
323 posts
Jul 16, 2005
10:07 PM
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Hey Big Al, I watch for the bird that looks to be rolling deep, I then watch for it to hit, then I use the counting method to judge depth.
I have tried to judge the distance rolled by merely viewing it, but for me it is hard as there is not usually a visual landmark to make a proper comparison, which I think makes accurate estimates difficult at best.
But we have to have some way to guestimate.
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FLY ON! Tony Chavarria
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Velo99
44 posts
Jul 17, 2005
11:15 AM
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Why don`t we ask some of the judges amongst us how they do it?
Please enlighten us if you would.
yits,
v99
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Mount Airy Lofts
25 posts
Jul 17, 2005
11:58 AM
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I asked a World Cup regional (of was it the finals) judge in 2002 once - how he computed the height of the birds. As we both stood on a mound looking at a 45 degree, he began to explain to me. I don't really recall what he told me but to sum it up, it was natural to him. He can just look and tell you how high the birds are and how deep they are rolling.
Go figure this judge was a Air Craft pilot for the U.S. Arm force... named Joe Bob Stuka. I suppose it would come in hand when flying a 1 million dollar plus U.S. owned air craft. (grin)
Maybe you can ask Joe Bob Stuka. Wait, he is leading in this year's World Cup fly and hopefully will take the seat of being next year's World Cup's final judge. If so, you can ask him first hand.
Thor
Last Edited by Mount Airy Lofts on Jul 17, 2005 11:59 AM
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