big al
105 posts
Sep 06, 2005
6:52 PM
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Hey guys,
I read about the program in the NBRC Bulletin some time back but have not heard much about it being used.
Have any of you had birds certified this year?
Do you know any others that have?
Does it seem to be gaining any popularity?
If you've seen or have any of these birds, how did they perform the day that the decision was made?
Just curious.
See you in the roll...
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Big Al
"High Plains Spinner Loft"
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motherlodelofts
262 posts
Sep 06, 2005
8:40 PM
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Big Al , I know that some areas are hot on it and value those pieces of paper, personally I have never given it much thought and the fact is the paper is only as good as those who certify them.
I have seen more hoop and hollering over some deep over frequent wing switching culls while there is a nice bird wrapping it up in the middle of the kit on the breaks that gets over looked by many.
Scott
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MCCORMICKLOFTS
132 posts
Sep 06, 2005
10:23 PM
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I am not sure why, but it doesn't seem to be popular around here. Maybe because of like what Scott said. Of course, I have thought about it from time to time, but then realized if I have one I really like, I don't need a certificate to tell me how good it really is..LOL. I think it is really kind of more for the guys who are into pedigrees and such.
Brian.
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Phantom1
9 posts
Sep 07, 2005
9:01 AM
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I can appreciate individual bird certification based on a point system because it enables a flier to compete without having to fly a minimum number of birds in a kit. To compete with a kit, we need either 11 or 20 birds. Individual flying allows more flexibility and offers those without the numbers an opportunity to enjoy in some of the same activities as the kit fliers.
Eric
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Slobberknocker
49 posts
Sep 07, 2005
11:11 AM
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Good post Eric and justwhat I have always thought. It will be nice to score individual birds based on the quality of the roll regardless of how deep they are. If a bird is extra deep but looks like a dish rag falling from the sky, now way it will get certified. Birds MUST exhibit the quality in the roll in order to be certified.
Bob
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www.slobberknockerlofts.com
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MCCORMICKLOFTS
134 posts
Sep 07, 2005
1:33 PM
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I believe Al's original idea was based upon the NBRC Certified Spinner program, not the competitions. Trying to get a roller certified as a top spinner doesn't have to take place during a competition.
Brian.
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Phantom1
10 posts
Sep 07, 2005
1:52 PM
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Hi Brian!
Although I'm not entirely familiar with the NBRC's certification program/process, I was moreso trying to entertain the relevance of such a program. No harm, no foul. Hope all is well!!!
Eric
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Alohazona
52 posts
Sep 07, 2005
4:08 PM
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Aloha guys, some good posts.In feb./2004, I had a major overfly,which left me with some real good birds and some just average,without the numbers to fly I was out early in the fly season.In july/2004,I hosted the 2004 WC judge,Dennis Burke at my home,just prior to him arriving,I thought that I would like to have him certify some of my spinners,so I could at least some how participate with my birds I had left.To make a long story short,Dennis was here for only like 30 hours,we gave him a choice to either see some birds or do some sightseeing,he chose sightseeing leading up to our regional champs fly,so there just wasn't enough time to do everything.Looking back at itI would have been honored to have Dennis certify my birds,as he turned out to be a pretty tough judge and only called the quality spin.
I hope that the certified spinner program picks up momentum and remains in place for the individual performers that deserve some recognition.I believe that birds that roll with excellent style,represent the sport just as well as the collective performers,peices of paper aside.Aloha,Todd
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motherlodelofts
266 posts
Sep 07, 2005
9:10 PM
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Todd
A bird certified by Dennis would be a good one, Dennis knows what a truelly good bird is plus if it didn't meet exceptional he would'nt have any problems to say "no not good enough".
These are the type of people that make good judges and for certifying birds.
Just My Opinion
Scott
Last Edited by motherlodelofts on Sep 07, 2005 9:13 PM
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upcd
34 posts
Sep 07, 2005
11:46 PM
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I haven't seen a certifed bird here in calif. You think there would be more of them. Is it hard to do? What happens during the test?
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Slobberknocker
50 posts
Sep 08, 2005
7:51 AM
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Hey Guys,
Without stirring things up, I will provide the following info. We have formed a new Roller club called the National Performing Roller Assn. You can find the link through the website below.
We have designed a system for scoring, judging, and certifyling individual birds based on performance. It is a simple system, yet effective. If you want more info, please go to the site or email me privately and i will be happy to answer any questions you may have.
Again, not trying to stir things up. We will need some judges in the CA area if you know of anyone who would be good at it.
Thank you,
Bob
mcguan@charter.net
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