siddiqir
49 posts
Sep 28, 2005
6:56 PM
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I have a question. If you know a pair always through good youngsters can you breed out of them all year long to give boost to your breeding program. The younsters produced in winter time would not get air time and can not be proven in the air this is one of the problem. What you guys think.
Thanks in advance.
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MCCORMICKLOFTS
164 posts
Sep 28, 2005
8:08 PM
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Sid, if you had a pair that gave you such excellent percentages, the optimum program would be to use fosters. Over the period of six months and a 100 percent fertility and hatch rate, you could effectively raise 30-36 young from that pair. If you bred from them an entire year, it is very unlikely that you could raise even 25 from them.
Brian.
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motherlodelofts
299 posts
Sep 29, 2005
10:02 AM
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Rauf
You get more out of them by giving periods of rest , plus they will stay much healthier which in turn means you will get more out of them.
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siddiqir
51 posts
Sep 29, 2005
10:24 AM
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Sounds good. Thanks, -Rauf
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Ballrollers
82 posts
Sep 29, 2005
2:24 PM
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Guys, In the same vein,I have a pair (black self cock and an indigo self hen, both chosen out of the air) that have placed their first 3 young in the A-kit out of 10 offspring. The other 7 are still developing. These birds are all Andalusian selfs, no that that matters, except making ID difficult in the air. They are 25-30 ft, 1-2 times per minute, fast, clean and excellent kitters, pretty much just what I want. I am tempted to leave the pair together and keep breeding them,or put them back together early, or put the young back on the parents so I have two producing pairs, hopefully. Bear in mind that all my stock birds are chosen performers, and unproven as breeders. And then there is the hawk issue and risk to take into consideration. One has already been taken. Any opinions? YITS Cliff
Last Edited by Ballrollers on Sep 29, 2005 2:24 PM
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motherlodelofts
302 posts
Sep 29, 2005
2:49 PM
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Cliff, clip the tails for ID
Cliff my best breeders are allways bred onto different mate's to actually figure out if they are true producers.
The fact is it is to early for any of us to truely know how our breeding season from this year went.
What is still good next Spring will be tell the true tale , everything showing right now is only potential.
Some are going to crash and burn, some are going to go stiff, or a whole host of other problems. But the cream is still the cream by late Sping of the following season.
That is how I see it any way.
Scott
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Ballrollers
84 posts
Sep 29, 2005
2:58 PM
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Thanks, Scott. That is pretty much what I had decided, but I needed the reassurance. These are Jan-Feb hatches and the temptation is there to not take any chances because of the risks. I guess that's the way the cookie crumbles in this sport. Cliff
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