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Scottish flyers??
Scottish flyers??
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Ally Mac
79 posts
Nov 30, 2005
2:45 PM
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We are trying to get a fly organised in Scotland in 2006, it would be a fun competition to gauge the amount of interest with a view to formalise things in the future.
Six definates so far, we still have more calls to make so things look quite promising.
It's a long shot but are there any others Scot's lurking in the back ground?
alasdair.maclean@ukgateway.net
Cheers.
Al.
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Alan Bliven
302 posts
Nov 30, 2005
4:31 PM
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I have some Scottish Horseman Thief Pouters ;)
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Alan
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glenn
3 posts
Nov 30, 2005
7:19 PM
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Hello AllyMac:
What's it like flying rollers in Scotland? Is it simular to England?
Glenn
Last Edited by glenn on Nov 30, 2005 7:20 PM
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Ally Mac
80 posts
Dec 01, 2005
1:30 PM
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Glenn
I suppose it must be pretty similar to England though the weather tends to be a lot wetter up here, it has also been very windy the last few years. My birds tend to get flown even if there is a good breeze and they seem to handle it ok though it may not be the best thing for them competition wise. I only got into pigeons 1 1/2 years ago so I am very much a novice.
Alan, I had a couple of thief pouters for a while last year but they started bringing wild pigeons back and I was a bit concerned about disease so I moved them on. They were good fun though, tremendous characters, the kids really loved them, they were so tame and responded to conversation etc.
Concentrating on rollers now.
Had mail from Graham Dexter last night offering to judge for us next year so that will be great, hopefully stir up some more interest.
Cheers.
Al.
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Alan Bliven
303 posts
Dec 01, 2005
8:28 PM
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Al,
Of course Rollers are my main breed. The Horseman are very rare here in the states. There's only a couple of people that have them and we fight over them like gold.
Good luck with your Rollers, I'm sure it will work out for you.
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Alan
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Shaun
213 posts
Dec 02, 2005
11:54 AM
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Hi, Al. It's MacShaun here. How's it going with those Moseley birds? Any babes yet?
I'd join you for a fly, but I'm a bit too far away. From the practical side of things, you lot arranging a fly - how you doing to do it? - Scotland's a fair old size, with very small communities outside of the big cities. On my travels, I recall Ayr on the west side, Dumfries on the borders (where I caught some fine trout in the river running through the town), Edinburgh on the East side - 100 miles or so north of my home town, Newcastle - and driving through Glasgow, which seemed to go on forever.
Where are you?
Shaun
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Ally Mac
81 posts
Dec 02, 2005
1:05 PM
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Hi Shaun.
I am in Oban, 100 miles North of Glasgow on the West coast. You are quite right it will take a bit of organising, the way things are looking we will have somebody in Ardrossan, thats west of Glasgow on the coast, towards Ayr,we hope to get a couple in Glasgow, me in Oban then another about an hour north of me. Thats the west coast, the boys in the East will be a little closer together. We will possibly do the west one day and the east the next. Its early days so we shall wait and see, hopefully we can find some boys to plug the gaps, if not we will just enjoy the scenery between flies.
Daves birds are coming on, I have 7 squabs coming up for a week old, I lost one the other day, it hatched too long after its nest mate and never got its share off the grub. Another 13 fertile eggs, some due next week, and another 2 pair hopefully laying in the next few days. I put a thermometer in the loft and it hasnt really got below 4 so far.
Got a good tip from Graham the other night, something I hadnt considered, my light is on a timer and just goes straight out, if the birds are of the nest they may not go back on in the dark. I am checking them now to be sure, he also mentioned around 10 days is a critical time when they are getting big to be covered but not fully feathered. Really chuffed Graham has offered to judge.
How are daves youngsters doing. Thomson McCormack in Ardrossan also flies Daves birds, Dave was a good help to him also, 3 of the boys fly Birkett birds, another wee comp there, Moseley V Birkitt!!
Early days but we will see how it goes.
Cheers.
Al.
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Shaun
214 posts
Dec 02, 2005
1:30 PM
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Al, I'm so pleased you've got the eggs laying and hatching. I recall one of the many things which Graham relayed to me. It was words to the effect that heating lofts and generally making the conditions more hospitable - well, such artificial methods never worked for him; it was actually better, no matter how cold it was, so long as draughts and damp were kept out.
I've just raised a couple of youngsters - which I didn't actually want - when there were frosts many mornings and the water greeted me with a film of ice on it and my garden tap frozen up. Going back to the breeding, I think it's what you say - if the parents find it difficult sitting on top of the youngsters, and they're not fully feathered, then they might succumb. I had no such problem; the parents sat on them until a fortnight or more, by which time the babes were fine on their own. In terms of light, I took Dave's advice about the powerful torch which slowly runs out of power. I stick it in the loft and feed them. The light then slowly diminishes, giving all birds time to find their position before dark.
Of the four I got from Dave, one of them has come into the roll big time - earlier, actually, than Dave said. It's kitting has gone off the boil as it tries to come to terms with the roll, but it does spin very well.
One of the things I like about Dave's birds, compared to my Masons, is how tame Dave's are. I've had a bellyful of maniacal, loony birds this last few months - both the Masons and another flyer I started off with. However, Dave's are the ones which, when hungry, will fly over to me for food. I like that a lot.
Oh, and another thing - Dave's four were an absolute doddle to settle. Again, I think it's the tameness thing. They can't have been more than about 6-8 weeks old when they arrived here. Yet, after 3 days, they looked content in their loft, along with the others. When I let them out, they didn't give any impression of wanting to disappear into the big, blue yonder; they just followed the more established birds and came back in when called. Easy peasy.
See how you go with yours; keep me posted.
Shaun
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Ally Mac
82 posts
Dec 02, 2005
4:36 PM
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shaun.
if you raise anymore you dont want i will give you my address!!!!!!
Al.
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jord
9 posts
Dec 09, 2005
9:11 AM
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can any one offer any advice i have two rollers that wont roll or stick with my others
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nicksiders
314 posts
Dec 11, 2005
3:47 PM
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If they are younger than other members of your kit might be a problem. If they have not flown as much as the other members could be a problem.
If neither are a factor you might have to cull them. Not all birds perform alike and your remedy is to cull them.
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