Norm_Knox
17 posts
Dec 07, 2005
1:24 PM
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Just wondering how long after the birds are born can you worm them? And also how long do you have to wait to let the breeders lay eggs after being wormed?? Thanks for any help
Norm
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nicksiders
308 posts
Dec 07, 2005
5:46 PM
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Don't poison the worms (and the birds) without evidence that the birds are infected. Don' t medicate healthy birds.
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J_Star
134 posts
Dec 08, 2005
6:02 AM
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Wormers should be given twice a year if you live in an area that has allot of humidity. Then you give half the dose once a month to maintain worms free birds. The worms eggs in the dropings take two weeks in wet or humid settings to become active. It is very difficult to get red of worms eggs in the loft once you have them. I would suggest to give it twice a year and if you notice that there are worms in the droppings everytime you give them the med, then treat them with the half dose evry month to break the cycle of the egg haching process. Follow by giving them a tblspoon of yogurt in their drinking water for few days to generate the good bacteria in their guts and crop.
Jay
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Norm_Knox
18 posts
Dec 08, 2005
8:54 AM
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Hi guys,
I'm not sure that they have worms but don't want to risk it and that is why I was going to worm the young and the breeders to get them ready for the season. I didn't know about yogurt but being on this site I learn new things every day ( God I love this place ) My old cock (1995) is looking strange today. He looked like he was sitting down, and then he would puff up and than tense up. I think he might have some problems poopin or something. If anybody has any idea please let me know. Thank you guys, and Jay you the man
Norm
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J_Star
136 posts
Dec 08, 2005
10:41 AM
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It is always difficult to diagnose this kind of issues without seeing the general loft setup and husbandry. But I will try to guess at it. First off, I hope that you don't have mice in and around your loft. If you know for sure that there is no mice in your loft, then it could be a possiblity of many things:
1) If he is rearing young, he could be dehydrating because he is using his own food to generate for the young and his mate. Make sure to take him away from his settings for couple of days and feed him plenty of nutritional seeds and vitamins.
2) If that is not the case and you live in colder climate, he could be chilled and require extra feeding with added corn in his diet. Corn generates heat and will keep the birds’ worm in the winter time.
3) If that is not the case also, he could be having a mild case of salmonella or E-coli. Those sicknesses are caused by bacteria and the use of antibiotic for 10 days straight will clear things up. Although the misuse of antibiotic is not recommended due to the bacteria building up a resistance for the antibiotics you use constantly after a while. For that reason, I have two different kinds of antibiotics in my pigeon medicine cabinet and I alternate every time I use them. Always follow up with the yogurt after medication for couple of days. Please make sure that your loft is cleaned. To avoid such symptoms, always use about a tablespoon of Apple Cider Vinegar to a gallon of water every time you give them water. That way it makes their droppings acidic and will eliminate or reduce the e-coli or salmonella. Also AVC will give them needed nutrients and vitamins.
4) If that is not the case, maybe old age!!
Best of luck,
Jay
Last Edited by J_Star on Dec 08, 2005 10:43 AM
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Norm_Knox
19 posts
Dec 10, 2005
3:20 PM
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Thanks Jay,
He stoped doing his little thing. I think that it is old age because I have no mice problems, they almost allways have something in the water (vinigegar or red-cell), and I clean my loft every single day. Jay I thank you very much my friend and you always have good advice.
Thank you
Norm
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