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spade_drain
36 posts
Dec 15, 2005
7:22 PM
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is there any difference in competitve n regular back yard flying .....
some people say that if you're going to compete then your birds are not going to roll as deep...is that true...
another question....
is it true that some birds can roll more (deep) but jsut that the other birds n the team doesnt roll as much it reduce the roll so that it can catch up with the rest...because i got a birds that rolls a good 15-20 feet an early developer 2-4 month's old same with the rest jsut htat it's an early developer before it was flying by itself n it's roll'n deep now it has now been flying with the team kitting good now it's not roll'n (not so deep) is anything wrong with the birds?
or is that the first question true...
jef
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MCCORMICKLOFTS
300 posts
Dec 15, 2005
8:48 PM
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"is there any difference in competitve n regular back yard flying"
Yes and No. It all depends on the specific element you choose to question. The biggest difference between the general backyard flyer and the competition flyer is the degree of focus. Competitive flyers are focused upon a goal, that goal being to put up the best kit on comp day and knowing what birds to use and what methods to set them up during the management process. Backyard fanciers don't have to trouble themselves with the intricacies of fine tuning a competition kit. The choices in the breeding pen will also often be different where as the backyard fancier might be looking for that one stellar performer while the comp flyer is looking to breed a kit of excellent team performers. There are a lot of topics that can be discussed with such a comparison, some equal, some divided.
"some people say that if you're going to compete then your birds are not going to roll as deep...is that true..."
Negative. Should you decide to fly your team in a competition, they don't suddenly realize they are now a comp kit, and then decide to change their roll behavior. A flyer usually wants to fly the deepest birds he can in a comp kit, but there is logical limit to what is deep and what is too deep. The deciding factor on what you see when you witness a kit in judgement is the flyer's selection for that kit. He may have deeper birds, but chooses not to fly them and risk not being able to score due to the bird not being able to make it back to the kit.
"is it true that some birds can roll more (deep) but jsut that the other birds n the team doesnt roll as much it reduce the roll so that it can catch up with the rest...because i got a birds that rolls a good 15-20 feet an early developer 2-4 month's old same with the rest jsut htat it's an early developer before it was flying by itself n it's roll'n deep now it has now been flying with the team kitting good now it's not roll'n (not so deep) is anything wrong with the birds?"
In some cases, primarily with older birds, there is a belief that when surrounded by better birds, a bird will become better itself. Sometimes having deeper birds in a kit will get a few others to roll a little deeper, but I don't think it works the other way around. That being shorter working birds causing a deeper bird to become as short in depth as his peers. In the right kit, you will notice certain things happen, and this generally happens, both good and bad, when the kit is on the same page.
As for your bird, young birds go through a bunch of different phases of performance. Every bird is its own individual and with that comes a myriad of mental and physical issues. Some will come in short and eventually get deeper. Others will be doing nothing for months, then suddenly roll down on their first roll. There are whole bunch of different issues at hand with young birds. But the bottom line is that with your bird, a very young bird, it probably is just getting a handle on the roll, each day becoming more seasoned with its performance. It could also be molting which will shorten both depth and frequency. It could also now be a member of a faster flying kit, which will in turn, make the bird concentrate on flying more and rolling less. Again, lots of variables at hand with young birds.
Brian.
Last Edited by MCCORMICKLOFTS on Dec 15, 2005 8:50 PM
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spade_drain
37 posts
Dec 15, 2005
9:01 PM
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yea it is some of my birds are still going through the moult so i gues it msut be the moult that's making them act a little weird...or it msut be something elso too never know well yea imma wait longer till they fully moult then see how they're flying...but yea thanx..
jef
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nicksiders
320 posts
Dec 17, 2005
4:06 PM
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I fly and train my birds like I am scheduled to compete in a few days and I do not lock them down. I attempt to develope my "Varsity" team to concert roll. I put the ones who are not performing down to the "JV" teman until they prove themselfs or they are cut (culled). My "Varsity" may consist of 30 birds or so. I also have the squeekers on a C squad or "Freshman" team and move them up as they mature and prove themselfs.
I like frequency and velocity.........depth is third and sometimes is managed by diet.
Keep it simple and organized.
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Fr.mike
93 posts
Mar 16, 2006
1:09 PM
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Jim what is gene side view?
mike
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