siddiqir
114 posts
Dec 31, 2005
3:03 PM
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Hello guys, just wondering when you start your breeding program and where you located.
I put pair togthers on March 1st & located in NJ, USA.
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Bluesman
Pigeon Fancier
616 posts
Dec 31, 2005
4:18 PM
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I start around the last week in November.I am in Pennsylvania. David
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Bill C
21 posts
Dec 31, 2005
5:27 PM
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I live in Sacramento, I will start in late Feb to mid March. There are too many hawks in the valley through early spring. Plus the later bred birds do just as good as those breeding in Dec and Jan here if they cant fly the young very much, which is the case most of the time. Many have problems with one egg or one hatching with two eggs. I like to follow the cycle of the wild birds nesting. That is a good time to start sicne the climate is conducive for wild birds breeding at those times. I think most breed early so they can get a few birds developing for the A team by fall. I have 60 birds left over to chose from this year so I also dont need the birds earlier. Bill
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fhtfire
274 posts
Dec 31, 2005
5:37 PM
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Put three pairs together at the begining of Dec..only becuase I wanted to get a couple young birds going for a friend. I put the other pairs together yesterday. I usually start the fires week of Feb....but I have a friend that wants a whole round off every breeder...so I put them together early. I will then breed for myself....I will breed one round off of my proven breeders and the rest will come from my new pairings. So far I have only put one new pair together. My main breeders will be used as fosters for the new pairs. I will clear out the rest of last years birds that do not make the cut about March or April.....I have about 20+ young ruby rollers that I will really evaluate so I can get at least two pairs together for next year. Anyway...about first week of Feb....but I started early this year.
rock and ROLL
Paul Fullerton
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MCCORMICKLOFTS
308 posts
Dec 31, 2005
11:16 PM
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20 pairs mated up the first weekend of December. Got a few hatching right now. I like to have the first young kit up and on the wing by the end of February if at all possible.
Brian.
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Sourland
28 posts
Jan 01, 2006
10:45 AM
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Rauf, I live in West-Central N.J., and I am putting my birds together tonight. Given our weather conditions, I always remove the first egg and replace it with a dummy egg. When the second egg is laid, I remove the dummy egg and add the real egg to the nest. I will do this for the first and maybe the second rounds. My birds have to be fairly strong when I first release them, or my hawk losses are astronomical. Hopefully by starting early my birds will have enough flying time when I have to shut down in late Oct. Hawk problems have me wondering how much longer I will be able to continue with this hobby (or is it an addiction?).
Last Edited by Sourland on Jan 01, 2006 10:46 AM
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J_Star
163 posts
Jan 03, 2006
5:14 AM
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I start the breeding program in early March due to the cold weather and the hawks and stop the breeding at the end of June. I live in Northeast ohio.
Jay
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Shaun
237 posts
Jan 03, 2006
10:43 AM
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Jay, does that mean that after a four month breeding period, your stock birds are then split up? If so, are they just sitting around for eight months, or do you do something else with them?
Shaun
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J_Star
164 posts
Jan 03, 2006
1:11 PM
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I take out the individual breeding pens and they just fly around in the loft. If they lay eggs now and then on the loft floor, I will distroy them and the end of that. If they are persistent, I replace them with wooden eggs.
Jay
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Shaun
238 posts
Jan 03, 2006
1:46 PM
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Great advice, Jay. Thanks.
Shaun
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siddiqir
115 posts
Jan 04, 2006
11:06 AM
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Dave, I am surprise to know that you start your breeding cycle in November. Just wondering how would you train youngsters? I know falcons and coppers are very aggressive till late March here in NJ and probably same true for PA. If I let birds out during Dec, Jan and Feb I would end up with empty perches, they will take every thing...
Bill C, good point about starting breeding cycle when wild birds nesting must be very suitable temp. For birds to start reproducing
fhtfire, great to see you help others to get started with quality stock
Sourland, in past years I put together pairs on March 1st but this year I would like to put together earlier so birds can have more fly time. May be first week of feb. Hopefully we do hit by dam cold.
Shaun, you bring up the good point about having breeders’ sitting for 8 months unfortunately this is part of the game. We simply have to feed them during non breeding season
Last Edited by siddiqir on Jan 04, 2006 11:10 AM
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maxspin
12 posts
Jan 04, 2006
11:29 AM
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I put my birds together 12/28. I gave them nest bowls yesterday, and expect eggs by the end of the week.
I want to be finished by July this year.
Keith
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upcd
125 posts
Jan 04, 2006
12:13 PM
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My birds were not sperated. They stopped breeding during the moult. And started back up agian.
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Mount Airy Lofts
66 posts
Jan 04, 2006
2:51 PM
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The weather debates when breeding season starts. It could be as early as mid Feb or as late as mid March. Seems like the weather is warmer then usual this year. Too bad I won't be breeding this year, if I do, I might just breed out of my foundation cock bird and a loaner pair (if I grab that loaner pair). Got a good size team right now and need to do some more culling if I am to breed out of these selected few this year.
Thor
Minnesota
Last Edited by Mount Airy Lofts on Jan 04, 2006 2:53 PM
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jerryf
7 posts
Jan 04, 2006
11:24 PM
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For Mount Airy Loft.
I see you too are from Minnesota. Good to get to know another roller breeder, WHe are you from? How many roller pairs do you keep? Another breeds I have 12 pair of Rollers, phases of Andalusian and Reduced Blacks--"Blue Laced". 8 pair of American Fantails in Andalusian and Powders.
Jerry Fletcher
Alexandria
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Bluesman
Pigeon Fancier
623 posts
Jan 05, 2006
2:33 AM
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Sid.I fly year round.Weather permitting and occassional lockdown for a week or so thru the worst migration times.I don't have any Falcons here.Just Coopers & Sharps.It seems with them once they get their bellys full they let me alone and I can fly the rest of my birds without any attacks.I have a kit I am ready to start flying this weekend.My birds get lazy when the weather gets warmer.LOL. David
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Mount Airy Lofts
67 posts
Jan 05, 2006
4:30 AM
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Jerry,
Flying them in the metro area. I'm from St. Paul. I currently have 2 pairs. I had three last year but my old hen stopped laying early last year so I am in the process of settling her in to fly. She's a 1993 and hope she's stays or will keep up if she stays. I'll know in a week when I remove the last of the tape from her flights. Her mate was a young bird I pulled out of the kit box last year. He is now back in the kit box where he belongs because I have no extra hens that would fit him. We'll see if I tuck him back in next year - his performance will make or break him since I stocked him early.
My goal is to have a max of 6 pairs in future years but that is alot of champions to ask for in such a small period of time. I'll take what I can produce but don't plan on stocking more then 6 pairs. Heck, I'll be happy with 4 pairs of air proven Champions.
I fly birds with Dave Gehrke, John Johnson, Ron Moon, Dick Kollmann, Brian Brueggemeier, etc. and other active fliers here in the Minnesota region. Your be suprise how many people have rollers in Minnesota. Most guys who have these birds don't have the quality of birds to compete nor do they care about being active fliers. The local club here currently have 29 members. That doesn't even compare to all the non members in Minnesota.
Andulusions and Lace ey.
Minnesota Flying Roller Group Sec. and Librarian,
Thor
P.S. If you are ever in town, let me know and I can kick out some birds for you. If you like color birds, I know two guys who flys some good color birds. One has been working on his family for over 30 plus and is a dedicated competion flier and the other has some John Castro birds (I think he only has yellows).
Last Edited by Mount Airy Lofts on Jan 05, 2006 4:07 PM
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