Phantom1
87 posts
Jan 13, 2006
8:44 AM
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Guys and Gals,
What is the shortest kit box that you think one could get away with? Ground to roof.
Reason I'm asking is I'm trying to keep things as short and inconspicuous in my back yard.
Thanks!
Eric
Last Edited by Phantom1 on Jan 13, 2006 12:38 PM
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highroller
90 posts
Jan 13, 2006
1:24 PM
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Eric,
I would build it so it's comfortable for cleaning etc. and try to hide it with a few well placed hedges or bushes. I guess if you don't mind sitting on your knees to feed them and clean it you could set it right on the ground as long as it is preditor proof.
Dan
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motherlodelofts
546 posts
Jan 13, 2006
4:03 PM
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Eric I have bulit many and bisicly learned what to do and what not to do.
For twenty to twenty two birds I like a floor space of 36 X 36 , this is large enough to fit a good sized feed tray that is 32 X 32 into, this is large enough for birds not to crowd and fight for feed.
As for ht. you want to make sure you can reach birds off of the upper back perch 40 in inside ht is fine.
Scott
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Phantom1
90 posts
Jan 13, 2006
4:46 PM
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Thank you gentlemen! The feedback has really helped me! I feel confident in moving forward with something that is low to the ground and hidden from passersby.
Yours in the hobby,
Eric
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SlipSpur
24 posts
Jan 13, 2006
7:18 PM
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Scott,
Do ya want to keep them packed in tight or is space OK? I saw a real nice kit box the other day, it was a square with 4 kit boxes... it looked to be around 8 feet square so each box was 48 X 48 X 48 ( or close to it ), he had roosts for 36 birds in each one. There was lots of room for feeders and such.
Mark
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J_Star
181 posts
Jan 14, 2006
8:52 AM
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Eric,
Seriously, if you want to hid your kit box completely from anybody to notice them, I would build them on the side of a shed (outside building). Only will show from the side of the shed is the doors for the kit boxes since the kit boxes are built in. This way you can feed them and water them from inside when it is rainy. If you wish, you can use the rest of the shed for storage or breeding pen or whatever you want. Think about it.
Jay
Last Edited by J_Star on Jan 14, 2006 8:52 AM
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Fr.mike
51 posts
Jan 14, 2006
11:23 AM
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Build yourself a natural sdreen --Plant 2-4x4 treated posts however long you need--that is blocking the good folks view from next door get soom of that treate lattice from home deopt nail it in between the posts--I believe it comes in 8ft. sheets then go buy yourself some hardy concord grape vines or go to the local nursery and ask them for some fast growing vines and WALA!You have a natural screen.Then on a very dark and dreery night you slip the kitboxes behind the screen and knowone is the wiser. If you get caught dont tell them a priest told you what to do Lol!I will go to confession later Lol!
Fr.mike
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Phantom1
95 posts
Jan 14, 2006
11:45 AM
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Hey Guys!
Okay, let's see. My main breeding loft is a 6X8. Upon over-encouragement from my wife to make it look like a storage building, well...I already have that in place. It's all of 2 feet away from my roof. The purpose for a short kit box is for me to be able to move that away from the house altogether.
My situation is unique, in that you can stand across the side street (corner lot remember) on the sidewalk and see, without any difficulty the fly pens on the front of my "6X8 Storage Building" LOL! I hung some lattice work and planted a trumpet vine that is triving....in the Spring and Summer. It does the trick. Most everyone in my neighborhood knows that I have the birds and don't care one little bit. It's the Management Company for the Homeowner's Association that's the bear.
Thanks again!
Eric
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Velo99
193 posts
Jan 14, 2006
1:28 PM
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Phantom,
Exactly what can the homeowners association do to you? Burn down your house? lol J/K I was under the impression it was a city ordinance or something. As long as the neighbors don`t care....... Just don`t go nuts . My neighbors like for my Y/B`s land on their house. Their baby daughter gets a huge kick out of them.She just laughs and claps when I release my birds. Then she says "Do it again Tenny Do it again.
YITS
Good luck bro
Kenny
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Phantom1
97 posts
Jan 14, 2006
1:35 PM
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Our neighborhood assoctiation constitution states: A resident cannot keep or breed any livestock that is bred for the use of human consumption or that could pose a threat to other resident by unhealthy means. Additionally, no poultry is allowed.
Well, I don't eat my birds, and I keep their lofts clean...and pigeons are certainly not poultry. But all it takes is a drive by and I'm done. I've seen it happen for lesser things in the neighborhood.
I just have to be careful about what I do.
Eric
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fhtfire
294 posts
Jan 14, 2006
1:49 PM
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Here is what you do. You go to a local University and have a professor or lab tech in the Avian Sciences lab come by your house check out your set up and you meds and vaccines. The good feed you feed....your ACV and so on. The avian research people know all about the diseases and the truth about pigeons. So, Meet with a professor and since they are bird nuts they will write a nice letter on the fact that the birds do not have threatning human diseases, that they are fed and cared for with the best grains and medications....and they loft are kept clean. Then just keep the letter...undated...until they try and get you....then you can throw the letter down and get support from your neighbors too.
rock and ROLL
Paul
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