washington86
33 posts
Feb 09, 2006
11:26 AM
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Is it all right to breed young rollers. They are about 10-11 months old. Are they mature enough to breed yet?
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Double D
121 posts
Feb 09, 2006
1:03 PM
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I have 7 pairs that are all 6 to 7 months old and they're all sitting on eggs right now and doing exactly what mother nature has given them the instincts to do. I've checked all of the eggs except 2 pair and they're all fertile. We'll see if they hatch but so far it's looking good.
Darin
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Safire
9 posts
Feb 09, 2006
2:01 PM
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I have a pair that is 9-10 months sitting on eggs. This is their first time. How can you check or know if they are fertile? I don't really want them to waste their time on infetile eggs.I'm not sure myself about your question washington86, but I would like to know also.
Last Edited by Safire on Feb 09, 2006 2:06 PM
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nicksiders
442 posts
Feb 09, 2006
2:55 PM
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Take a good flashlight and hold the egg up against it. If it is fertile you will be able to see kinda like vains in it. Make sure the egg is about 7 days old; it will begin to show.
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Velo99
212 posts
Feb 09, 2006
3:02 PM
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Okay,
I know you guys are newbies and I quit smoking two weeks ago so I`ll be nice lol.
The biggest reason not to breed an inexperienced bird is the limited amount of fly time allowed before the bird is introduced into the breeder loft. Are the traits that are yet to be exposed as your bird matures what you want in your birds?
On the other hand,there are what I call "name brand" birds. Good established families from good established breeders.With these birds it is possible to breed young birds and not get into trouble right off the bat.They have most of the desirable traits one would want.
On the other other hand, if you have a few pairs of young birds that are pretty decent breed hell out of them.You just have to sort thru them as you go,cull hard bro.
The 10-11 month birds will be fine to breed. Check the egg against the light or flashlight or what ever. If you see veins it is good as long as it doesn`t get chilled or rolled around too much. After a week the egg will be dark and dense looking if it is fertile. It will feel like there is a chick in it.After 10-12 days don`t handle the egg unless it is absolutely neccessary.
Good Luck this year guys,
YITS
Kenny
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nicksiders
444 posts
Feb 09, 2006
8:04 PM
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I quit smoking about 20 years ago and it was very difficult. My wife said I went through about 7 personality changes. Stick to it. My problem was that not only was I addicted I also really like it, but other than marrying Linda Hahn it was the best thing I ever did.
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Double D
128 posts
Feb 09, 2006
8:22 PM
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Kenny,
My birds came directly from Ivan Hanchett and he paired them up for me. I never flew them as I didn't want to take a chance on losing them as it would be extremely hard to replace them as Ivan's birds are in high demand. Hence, the reason I bred them so young. I will fly the young out and build my breeding loft from those birds but in this case, I felt I had no choice but to do as I've done. Ivan's birds are a very tight family and as I indicated, he paired the birds up for me so I believe I stand a good chance of getting some good young from these pairs, at least that's what I'm hoping for. Sometimes when you're just starting out, there's not to many options.
Darin
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washington86
34 posts
Feb 09, 2006
11:43 PM
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thanks for you guy's advise. Dont you think that young rollers should be kept at thier won age of breeding or they could just breed with a older pigeon. for exmaple a 11 months male breed with a 7 years old female. can that happen.?
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Velo99
216 posts
Feb 10, 2006
10:55 AM
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Darin.
That would fall under the "name brand" category. This is a seperate entity to itself where the breeder actually keeps a finger on the pulse of your setup initially. Probably the most advantageous of all starting out scenarios. Ask Shaun. He is living proof and only six months to a year ahead of you Darin.
George86, if the mating produces chicks and you are happy with the outcome age should really make no difference. It is better to put a pair together that has an experienced mate to cover of the mistakes sometimes made by young breeders.
Good luck you guys and thanks Dave and say hello to your wonderful missus. We know she is a great lady to put up with you! JK!!lmao
v99
Last Edited by Velo99 on Feb 10, 2006 10:55 AM
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