Safire
12 posts
Feb 13, 2006
11:31 AM
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If a stock roller no longer posesses the performance it once did because of age; yet still is fertile; should it still be considered in your stock loft?
yours in the hobby
Last Edited by Safire on Feb 13, 2006 11:32 AM
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knaylor
58 posts
Feb 13, 2006
11:34 AM
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safire, in my opinion once you stock a bird all that should matter is what its offspring does. Kevin
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Safire
13 posts
Feb 13, 2006
11:44 AM
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Meaning if one lets the bird out just for one fly with a kit rollers because he just wants to see if the bird still has it, and it rolls down.
Last Edited by Safire on Feb 13, 2006 11:47 AM
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MCCORMICKLOFTS
386 posts
Feb 13, 2006
11:57 AM
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Stock birds are production tools. If that bird produces what you like, that is all that matters.
Would you think more highly of the bird if when you released it performed just like you remember it, but yet, it never produced anything worthy of it's own self in the stock pen?
Value is the production results.
Brian.
Last Edited by MCCORMICKLOFTS on Feb 13, 2006 11:58 AM
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Safire
14 posts
Feb 13, 2006
12:00 PM
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thanks for the posts.
friend in sport
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Safire
15 posts
Feb 13, 2006
1:03 PM
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If anybody has any posts to add to this, I am always willingly to read and learn.
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knaylor
61 posts
Feb 13, 2006
5:36 PM
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Safire, I personally do not fly a bird again once I stock it unless it is not a good breeder. Think about if it becomes a founation bird and you fly it and a hawk gets it. Then where are you at??? Kevin
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nicksiders
453 posts
Feb 13, 2006
5:37 PM
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Nothing to add, just to comfirm. Your your stock has the genes and is producing then it doesn't matter what age the bird is. The proof is always in the pudding.
I would never fly a stock bird. A loss would be painful forever. The only way I remove a stock bird is giving it to another breeder or culling.
Last Edited by nicksiders on Feb 13, 2006 5:39 PM
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fhtfire
337 posts
Feb 13, 2006
9:10 PM
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Hey,
Don't expect a stock bird to fly with the kit one day and be like its old self...just remember how you fly and feed you kit birds...A bird that has been getting a little, eating like a pig and has not flown in awhile....they are out of shape. Plus...rollers like to fly..my breeders still sit there with there eyes in the air watching the kit birds fly...you know that they want to stretch there wings....then you let them out...and they get real excited...of course they will be a lawn dart.
A couple years ago...I had one of my best cocks get out...a nice blue bar cock...he was a stud in the air and also produces better then he is...anyway..he got out...I thought...Hey..I will let a kit out and that will make him want to come back to the loft and I will catch him...well, when the kit went up..so did he...and then he rolled down from about 40ft and made a big dent in my neighbors awning.....It really messed him up..thank god he pulled through!....only put the bird back in the kit if it does not produce....then treat him like a young bird...get him or her back in shape....slowly! SOmetimes they are never back to there old form and then you have to cull them....sucks...but that is what happens sometimes
rock and ROLL
Paul
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Safire
20 posts
Feb 14, 2006
8:08 AM
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Thankyou all for the posts!
friend in the sport
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