Mount Airy Lofts
104 posts
Feb 15, 2006
3:39 PM
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I have talked to many people about what they would consider a Blurr and it seems to be all over the board. I would like to hear your thoughts...
Which one do you consider the Blurr:
1) A bird that rolls with a shinking appearence no matter what style.
2) A bird that rolls with enough velocity to mask it's color. Meaning you can't tell what color the bird is when it performs.
3) A bird that appears to be a base ball falling from the sky and shows the hole.
4) No wings visible during performance but doesn't show the hole.
5) A Fuzz during performance, doesn't show the hole.
Which one have you seen and termed as a BLURR?
Thanks -
Thor
P.S. I have seen so many BLURRs written down on the pedigrees of some guys that it makes me think... what the heck is a BLURR to him? I can honestly say that I have only witness two birds that I would consider to have BLURRED out. Both birds did it when coming into the roll.
Last Edited by Mount Airy Lofts on Feb 15, 2006 8:42 PM
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MCCORMICKLOFTS
387 posts
Feb 15, 2006
3:59 PM
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The blurred birds I've seen were all the same--a blur. All I saw was a fuzzy little ball. No wings, no hole, no nothing except a fuzzy little ball that made others around it seem like they were tumblers.
Brian.
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rust never sleeps
12 posts
Feb 15, 2006
6:48 PM
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This great performer was bred by richard luna.Who now lives at victorville ca, flew this pigeon in 1997 competition fall fly. witness by myself and many in his back yard in 'garden grove' ca. she performed 70'BLURR! THE LATE GREAT Monty Neibel with George Mason saw the same kit of pigeons a month earlier.in 2002 she came to my loft.the KNOCK OUT HEN since then she has produce sons and daughters and her first grand-child in 2005, all were air tested for performance.And stock .When you see a BLURR you don't forget how great the birmingham rollers are.SBRC-96-378
Last Edited by rust never sleeps on Feb 15, 2006 7:28 PM
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Mount Airy Lofts
105 posts
Feb 15, 2006
8:39 PM
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guys,
My blurr is diffinitin number 5. A bird that just fuzzes out during performance. I know this is not so for others tho as I have heard different. I can't imagine some one breeding Blurr after Blurr after Blurr. A Blurr just isn't bred every year in my books.
Strong looking bird, thanks for sharing. Mr. Luna is a pretty famous flier... I am pretty sure that is just one of many he had that was a good 'un.
Thor
Any one else care to share their diffinition of a BLURR?
P.S. Brian - how many BLURR birds have you seen and are they constantly performing BLURR rolls on every release?
Last Edited by Mount Airy Lofts on Feb 15, 2006 8:40 PM
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MCCORMICKLOFTS
390 posts
Feb 15, 2006
8:54 PM
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Thor, I can recall about a half dozen legit blur birds. I've bred three total. One did it occasionally, but she wasn't very frequent at all. One would do it several times in a fly if she was primed right. But she wasn't deeper than about 20 feet. The most recent was a bird in one of my young kits and to date was the fastest spinning roller I have ever seen in my life. It was probably one of her first rolls too as I can never recall seeing her do it again. I overflew that kit today and they all came back except her. I think if we as fanciers weren't so quick to protect and stock super spinners, we would probably see more of them. As it stands now, when someone gets one that is that good, they tend to put it away forever.
Brian.
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nicksiders
461 posts
Feb 15, 2006
11:21 PM
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The rare times I have seen the blurr from one of my birds that bird just don't do it every time it rolls and in fact some of them never do it again. It is kind a like a runner who does his best time ever, but never achieves that time again.
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birdman
121 posts
Feb 15, 2006
11:37 PM
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Brian,
I drove by your place yesterday heading South at around 11:30am. I looked up as I went by and didn't see any birds flying but your flag was blowing in the wind and I noticed a huge hawk flying low at the back of your lot where the empty field is adjacent to the fwy. I hope that's not the reason for your overfly today.
Russ
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Mount Airy Lofts
106 posts
Feb 16, 2006
11:23 AM
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nick...
That is exactly what I have experienced as well. Altho it seems to be when they were coming into their first roll. There was an exception as I had a old bird last month duplicate a no wings - almost blurring performance. Not Fuzz but close.
Brian M.,
I hope you get that bird back. I hate to give hopes on any bird because things like that usually happens. Once I see something I like, I constantly have to put it down until I stock it. Otherwise, it seems like those birds that I favor in performance will be the first to be lost/hawked/etc.
Do you believe some one can breed more then 3 Blurrs in a year? Isn't the percentages of Champion at 1 out of 1000 birds. That would mean you needed to breed 3000 birds to get that many ariel champions.
Thor
P.S. Winter time in Minnesota is all ways the worst time to fly. High pressure after high pressure is moving thru. My old birds are constantly skying out - for the last 2 months. My young birds on the other hand have been flying at a perfect height - 150' as they should be. I fear a overfly is to be expected any day now from my old birds. I am flying them twice a week and my young birds 6 times a week.
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MCCORMICKLOFTS
391 posts
Feb 16, 2006
3:10 PM
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Hey Russ, next time get off the freeway and come over..lol
Naw, that redtail doesn't mess with my birds much this time of year. During the fall and summer they will though. We had that weird front move through yesterday and the wind came up and sucked the kit up. They were working hard and disappeared. I figure a falcon got the hen as she didn't come back today. Just the way it goes. I've gotten use to losing birds lately. Don't like it, but it is what it is.
Thor, I have no idea what it takes to breed a kit box full of blur spinners. I doubt anyone else does either as I have never seen, nor ever heard of anyone who seen a kit full of blurred out spinners. I would guess that is what makes birds of that caliber so special, beings as they are just so hard to raise. I am happy if I get one that comes close to that each year. 1 out of 150 ain't bad..lol
Brian
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birdman
124 posts
Feb 16, 2006
5:44 PM
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Hey Brian,
I thought about stopping by but I would have got my butt in a wringer if I had been late for my meeting. LOL...
Next time I'll give you a heads up.
Was that bird out of the B.E. stuff or the Horner stuff?
Russ
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merced guy
48 posts
Feb 16, 2006
8:48 PM
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thor,
my blurr is a shrunken ball or mass of fuzzy feathers which seem to get smaller and smaller untile it stops.
thong
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MCCORMICKLOFTS
392 posts
Feb 16, 2006
8:55 PM
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Any time Russ. I'm always flying birds till mid morning just about every morning.
No, she was off of a pair of birds I pinched out of Steve Smith's kit last year. The cock is Goss bred and the hen was Parker bred.
Brian.
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Opinionated Blowhard
10 posts
Feb 17, 2006
8:23 AM
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There is no accepted definition for a blur roller. Every man has his own definition. The less experience you have with rollers and the worse your vision, the more blur rollers you will see.
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Mount Airy Lofts
109 posts
Feb 17, 2006
12:08 PM
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I think the biggest mistake one can make is to not educate themselves. Let it be a good roll or a BLURR. You won't believe how many guys can't tell the difference between a good roll from a tumble. I truly believe the BLURR is universal but until we see that performance, it is just something we can read about and put it into use as to what we see in our birds in the air. That is why there are so many BLURR diffinitions in my opinion. One man's BLURR is another man's CULL. Some guys use the Phase BLURR loosely.
Education is key.
When I first started with my family, I was told a BLURR was a bird that rolled fast enough for you not to tell what color it was. This was my diffinition until I saw my first real BLURR. I had many birds that can roll with so much velocity that you can't tell what color it was during performance. I have also seen acouple that shrunk during performance. I have also seen acouple that would ball up with no wings visible. Altho, I have only seen 2 that totally BLURRED out.
There is a fine line with high velocity and ultimate. Until you see it, all you can do is read about it. Remember, reading and experiencing it first hand is two totally different thing.
So, I ask again, what is your diffinition of a BLURR (from 1-5)
Thor
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motherlodelofts
600 posts
Feb 17, 2006
12:23 PM
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Get Glasses ,then they are nothing but fast pigeons, "blur" is used loosly.
Scott
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MCCORMICKLOFTS
393 posts
Feb 17, 2006
12:35 PM
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I have 20/15 vision. I can see very well and I know the difference between a bird that blurs out and one that is just rolling fast. Is anyone who witness one, or thinks they have, "blind"?
Brian.
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Mount Airy Lofts
110 posts
Feb 18, 2006
1:15 PM
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Maybe if we all take away our binocular's, we'll have a kit of blurrs. Grin
All joking aside, if you have poor vision, there is no chance in hell you will be able to tell a tumble from a roll. How are you suppose to enjoy the birds if you have poor vision? Wait, it just hit me... maybe we'll enjoy the birds more if we have poor vision. Poor vision will give us an illusion of BLURR perfomances.
Thor
Last Edited by Mount Airy Lofts on Feb 18, 2006 1:17 PM
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