tapp
55 posts
Feb 22, 2006
11:22 AM
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2 days ago I put 6 squeekers that have been flying for a month in my 04-05 kit box together. And have been flying them that way. My older birds don't roll as much now. If I keep them together will it be ok. The Squeekers used to tail ride and do a few flip's now they mostly just fly with them. Will this hold them back? Or will it be ok? I'm not building a team kit I'm trying to pick my best from the air..The squeekers I fly I won't be able to tell the good ones till next year. I just put 5 more squeekers in a trainig kit box to start flying next week.Once they learn to fly and trap can I fly all them together? Or is it best to separate into kits all the same age. I have the kit boxes to do it. 'Living' Watching' Doing' Listning' I love it. Roller Pigeons' THANKS Tapp
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Tapp
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upcd
156 posts
Feb 22, 2006
11:56 AM
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Do you think the older birds might be alittle overwieght? Or are they ready for the breeder cage? Others will be along shortly with more ideas. Let us see what they say.
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661roller
2 posts
Feb 22, 2006
1:54 PM
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I think I would keep the '04/'05 birds in their own kit and fly the squeakers separatly, adding new squeaks to them as they come along.
Jim
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Mount Airy Lofts
113 posts
Feb 22, 2006
10:25 PM
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I have found that if you put too many young birds into the older more established team... they'll be retarded. One or two young birds doesn't seem to make that much of a difference. Altho if these young birds are constantly tail riding and causing havoc... then it is best to remove them as soon as possible.
I don't recommend flying young birds with old birds unless they are super deep rollers - 30 plus feet. Why? Because old birds can get strong super fast. This causes high flying and many times - sky outs. If this occurs when you have a mix kit of birds, then most likely you can kiss the young birds away. They don't call old birds old birds for nothing. These are veteran fliers and have pretty much experienced all there is. While the young birds are easily lost in any new enviroment - over fly, etc.
I have kissed many young birds away before by adding it to my old bird or hold over team. Never again I say.
My old birds can be whiped back into flying shape in a faction of a time vs. my young birds. I also find that my young birds will hardly ever fly higher then 150 feet. While my old birds are constantly ranging in the 300 feet.
Retardation is my biggest concern. Yes, I believe you can retard a hold over team/some old bird team.
Thor
P.S. The above is just my opinion. One I have come to be after flying such birds in the past. I only breed from 1-3 pairs every year. This causes me to flying mix ages. Many times, I would have to retard the first and second rounds just so I can train them fresh with my 3 and fouth. A note, I use fosters.
Last Edited by Mount Airy Lofts on Feb 22, 2006 10:27 PM
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Dave Szab
16 posts
Feb 24, 2006
2:43 PM
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Tapp,
It's very important to fly young birds only with other young birds that are at the same stage of development. You can ruin young birds if you mix them up, and they pick up bad habits from one another. That being said, I will once in a while, fly a young bird kit, that has started rolling pretty good, with my A or B team. I do this so that the young birds learn to set-up better, instead of their hap-hazard waterfall rolling that they usually start out with. I find that after they have flown with the old birds in one big kit, at least twice, they start breaking together better.
Dave Szabatura
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tapp
58 posts
Feb 24, 2006
6:06 PM
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Thanks guys. I only flew them 3 times that way and put them back in their own kit box. They're staying up for 20-30 min. now. And today my older kit rolled their best yet!
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Tapp
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