Double D
205 posts
May 03, 2006
8:34 PM
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And with good velocity also. The bird has had a few close calls but so far as shown control. I hope it doesn't end up being too hot and become a roll-down. In the meantime, it sure is fun to watch it. If this bird can maintain control, I believe it really has potential to be my first solid A-team kit bird.
Today though, after about 30 minutes in the air, it just took off for about an hour. It finally came strolling back, did a few flips real close to the ground, and landed on a fence about 50 yards away from the kit box. It acted as though it was a little dis-oriented.
When you guys have extremely young birds rolling like this, do you find that they seem to lose their mind a little bit sometimes?
Darin
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fhtfire
432 posts
May 03, 2006
8:39 PM
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DD,
I would bet my left nut that in about three weeks that birds will be a lawn dart....But i could be wrong. I have found that when a bird stays away like that and acts kind of coo--coo...It is either scared to death from the roll because it is haveing a hard time mentally to come out of the roll...or while it was out on it little 1 hr. adventure it bumped and has a headache. I get real nervous when a bird comes into the roll that fast..it is just a matter of time before the bird either loses total control...or bumps hard and dies. That is real young to be rolling that deep and hard. But...again...who knows...just my thoughts....whatever happens you have no control over it.
rock and ROLL
Paul
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MCCORMICKLOFTS
509 posts
May 03, 2006
8:40 PM
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If it is 10 weeks old, I am going to assume it has been flying for what, one or two weeks at the most?
I've only had a couple that started rolling within the first couple of weeks of flying. Within a few days they were all stone cold roll downs. And yes, they all were a little whacked out in the noggin, flying all over the place in fear I suppose.
Generally any bird at my place that comes into hard deep rolling like that in the first couple of months is a dead pigeon flying. I've only had two that I can recall that started rolling after being flying for about two months that lasted, and they lasted to this day. I wouldn't count on this one making your A team just yet. My bet is it won't make it another week or two. But stranger things have happened..lol
Brian.
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motherlodelofts
753 posts
May 03, 2006
9:20 PM
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Keep flying it , it will either bite the big one or quit rolling due to it has gained control.
If it doesn't shut the roll off the chances are slim that it won't fall apart.
I had one in my youngster kit doing 5 plus feet after a week of flying that I was worried about , now it isn't rolling which is a good thing.
Scott
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Mount Airy Lofts
211 posts
May 03, 2006
9:35 PM
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10 weeks, is that 1 month of flying time or just two weeks. I had birds come out flipping on the second flieght. Then start rolling the forth time out. I don't recall one ever making it pass acouple weeks old before crashing. Altho, if it has logged in a month of flying, then it could be possible it is just a early developer. I had birds come in at 3 months old. The ones that aren't afriad of the roll usually become quite stable rollers once mature.
The problem with early developers is that it is hard to fly them with birds their own age. I find that if done so, they usually kill themselves because of all the low flying young bird team does.
Keep on eye on it. Sounds like the bird has all ready hit something or become so afriad of the roll that it is landing some where else then the loft to regain it's bearings.
20 to 30 feet is normal if it just came in. Usually the deeper and faster rolls come in the first week of them coming on. Then they cut it back and shorten it up and gradually work it back in. Well, that's how the majority of my birds come in.
Thor
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katyroller
19 posts
May 04, 2006
6:28 AM
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My experience with birds flying off for awhile and coming back looking kind of confused, is that they have rolled down somewhere and it took them awhile to get their senses back to get home. You can continue to fly this bird and see if it crashes or lock it up for a week and give it time to do some maturing. If you continue to fly it, make sure it doesn't start taking other birds with it on those journeys.
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Planet_Rock_Lofts
40 posts
May 04, 2006
9:24 AM
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I would have to agree with Paul on this one I think the bird is going to eventually hit or as stated has already hit something. I have had only one bird roll that deep and be a young bird and live. The same bird never did a tail sit, has never rolled down and could do tumbles flips 40 - 80 ft. rolls very smart bird like his father (10 - 100 ft. bird). I would keep him flying and eventually the truth about him will come out.
Planet Rock Lofts
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Double D
206 posts
May 05, 2006
1:19 PM
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Sure as shootin, the little bugger bumped yesterday coming in to land on the kit box. Started to roll about 20 feet from the ground and began to come out of it just before it bumped the ground but it did hit the ground, just not hard. It immediately flew up and landed on the kit box. Doesn't seem hurt at all. Mostly likely a lawn dart in the next few days though. I'll keep flying it and see what happens.
Darin
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Velo99
412 posts
May 05, 2006
4:53 PM
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Darin
Keep him in for a few days and feed him up. Fly him out again. I would give him a chance or two.If not he`ll be fun to watch till he does himself in.
v99
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Double D
207 posts
May 05, 2006
8:49 PM
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He flew great today. He also shortened up the roll considerably, only about 5 to 10 footers today. He was doing them kind of close to the tops of houses though. Maybe that bump scared him a bit yesterday. The other birds are starting to become more frequent, all are kitting well together, and doing three to four flips consecutively. It's a blast to watch them. I can't wait till I have 20 of them, all mature in the roll, up in the sky doing their thing. I have 5 more I'll be moving to the kit box Monday that I can add to the 7 I have now so I'm getting there slowly but surely. 4 more babies in the nest and a bunch of eggs set to hatch in the next couple weeks. Pretty soon I'll have birds coming out my ears. Not to mention 6 Ruby Rollers set for delivery next month.
Darin
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parlorfancier916
3 posts
May 08, 2006
6:01 PM
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get ready to catch this bird when you let it fly, my 2 month old parlor is a roll down to, I just locked it up to see if the wing will get weaker so it can become fully grounded...
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Planet_Rock_Lofts
41 posts
May 09, 2006
2:20 PM
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What?
Your parlor is a roll down? I don't ubderstand what you mean by that statement.
Planet Rock Lofts
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parlorfancier916
8 posts
May 09, 2006
9:37 PM
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my parlor chicks have strong wings, parlors can fly when they are young and mine get grounded after a few weeks of rolling, I get tired of them waiting for a year so i use this technique..
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Velo99
415 posts
May 10, 2006
4:44 AM
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Parlor
Tell me more about this grounding process. I have a bird thats a deadout rolldown. She rolled 15 feet across the yard after she hit last time.I have her in the foster side but she is too young til next season. If I could train/ground her.... It would give me something to do with her.
I hate a non producer. She isn`t even a pet,no personality, just a bird I can`t bring myself to cull.
v99
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jerries loft
8 posts
May 10, 2006
6:00 PM
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you cant train birmingham rollers to roll on the floor. the parlor roller after a month or so just stop flyin, and start rolling on the ground . i have a pair that rolls for aleast over a 100 ft on grass until i stop it. thats all for show.
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Mount Airy Lofts
214 posts
May 10, 2006
8:28 PM
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I had a pair of Parlors that would produces different performers. Some will fly for acouple of months before being grounded and some will be grounded right off the nest (30 days old or less).
About roll downs that will continue rolling on the ground after they hit. I had a few in the past as well. I think they just get knocked silly after hitting the ground and continue because of the pain. I don't think it is something they naturally do on their own. Kind of like when you take off their heads and let them be. They will flop over on the ground.
I have never seen a Parlor Roller roll down. The ones I see will start flipping when they are grounded. I have not seen one start flying and just roll down.
Thor
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Velo99
416 posts
May 11, 2006
4:54 AM
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Parlor
What if I tied her head to her feet and rolled her across the yard like a bowling ball? lol
I guess thats why ya don`t cross a O.R. and a B.R. to get a spinner.
v99
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parlorfancier916
12 posts
May 12, 2006
11:13 PM
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well, it's simple really, the ownly reason why the non parlor rollers roll on the grass is because the can't stop there roll, You can't train another breed of pigeon that don't have parlor roller genes (that dominate) to roll on the ground plus you can't ground a non parlor rolldown to roll on the ground. I'm sorry but I've tried it before as well for about a year and had nothing..
Last Edited by parlorfancier916 on May 12, 2006 11:14 PM
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parlorfancier916
13 posts
May 12, 2006
11:19 PM
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mountain I think you should try to fly your young ones for a few months you should see some of them if not most of them do rolldowns, there are some that get grounded after they leave the nest so If yours don't fly you might have that gene that dominates..
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Cody
13 posts
May 12, 2006
11:52 PM
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mount aire loft did you mean to snap their neck cause i did it before.lol. but my last one i snapped it and it flew and died on my roof in about 10 second.
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