Shia
6 posts
May 31, 2006
1:03 AM
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For those who have been in the Roller hobby for a while, what were some of the challenges you faced when you started? And how did you resolve them?
Your input, whether you're experienced or inexperienced, is greatly appreciated.
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J_Star
453 posts
May 31, 2006
4:24 AM
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Hawks and more hawks.
Jay
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C.J.
187 posts
May 31, 2006
4:30 AM
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Shia the best word of advice I can give you to starting out is go to experienced roller peoples loft and watch watch a true Birmingham does in the air. Then find an experienced hobbiest who is willing to take you under their wing. The most important thing to someone who is just starting out is to get a hold of quality virds. By this I mean birds that you can actually build a loft on. Never take a persons word for how good the birds are. Any man or woman who is confident in their birds ability will put them in the air and let the birds do the talking. If you happen to start out with someone elses crap then you will only become frustrated and never get any where.
C.J.
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3757
42 posts
May 31, 2006
6:59 AM
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Shia - Visit as many fanciers as you can and watch the birds carefully. Do not buy birds or accept free birds. Do not get fascinated by numbers, personalities etc. After you have visited many lofts ask yourself what you want out of your birds, set your goals and acquire birds that meet your needs. Ask questions regarding certain families of birds such as "How long does it take before the come into the roll etc.? Also, remember this quote (Pensom 1945) "Lewis Wright says that the true Birmingham Roller turns over backwards with inconceivable rapidity through a considerable distance like a spinning ball"
Last Edited by on Feb 23, 2008 5:58 AM
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siddiqir
219 posts
May 31, 2006
7:21 AM
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First you need to acquire a good quality stock. I think this would be hardest part...I believe many new fanciers start with wrong birds...some quit out and some stay with it and learn a lot from those wrong birds by trying different things...taking every one advice, internet search, reading etc...
The good stock birds are priceless because fancier has put years to build quality stock. So in order to get the right quality stock birds you need to show that you are real serious with hobby.
You need to build a loft which is right for you with few simple principles like ventilation, sun pen, two sections to separate hens and cocks when not breeding. You need to build a kit box that is right for you...by right for you I mean you design your own...
That is pretty much it. Do not keep too many birds. Keep the best which you seen in the air and doing right thing...
Remember pigeon hobby is name of frustration, so do not think after doing every thing right you will have 100% success...you will find that a bird is not trapping in and you getting late to go to work...hawks took you best bird and that make you sad for few days...getting hard time push youngster to into the air...one bird is cutting make all do that, a bird is coming down early making all come down...the list is long...
But they also give real pleasure when they roll fast (blur) like 40 feet so there is a trade off.
Thanks, -Rauf
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dave
103 posts
May 31, 2006
8:10 AM
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Shia,
A good place to start will be the NCRC bbq. You will be able to meet a lot of good fliers from other regions besides your own. You could probably also pick up some good birds there.
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3757
43 posts
May 31, 2006
8:38 AM
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Shia - If you attend the NCRC event make sure you speak to Joe Kiser and Joe Borges. They are both wonderful gentlemen and have some very good spinners.
Last Edited by on Feb 23, 2008 5:59 AM
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Shia
7 posts
May 31, 2006
11:31 PM
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Thanks everyone for your input. I'll try to put your advice to use.
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trevsta65
14 posts
Jun 01, 2006
1:37 AM
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i wish i had found this site before i got some birds. then i wouldnt have to do what im going to do this weekend which is go out and by a really good pair of stock birds .and start all over again after reading all of your comments over the past couple of months i have decided the birds i have are not good enougth matter of fact they quiet boring in the air sure they fly well 40,50 minutes but they are not freqent enought and do not roll deep like the rollers you guys have.so its back to the drawing board for me and keep all the good advice coming.cheers trev
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Outlaw Vizsla
10 posts
Jun 01, 2006
4:38 AM
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Trev,
There's nothing wrong with useing the birds you already have. Just go get yourself a good pair or two this weekend like your planning and use the ones you already have to foster from your good pairs. There are several good posts a couple pages back about fostering birds to get your numbers up from the good pairs. Check those posts out, I think they will help you out alot.
Matt
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J_Star
454 posts
Jun 01, 2006
5:43 AM
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Trev, Try work with their feed and see if that will trigger them. For example, cut the feed down for 10 birds give them 8 or 9 tblespoons of wheat/milo 50/50. Also 3 hours before you fly them give them two tblspoons of Canary seeds for about 4 to five days. They will give you a show. Just give it a try and see what happens.
Jay
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trevsta65
15 posts
Jun 04, 2006
12:03 AM
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i forgot to mention that rollers i have were origionally only going to be foster birds for the blondineetes that i breed but i got bored just looking at birds sitting on perches . so i let the rollers hatch out some of there own eggs until i had enougth to get a kit flying so i wasnt exactly sure what they were going to perform like as i never seen the parents fly as they were brought from a pet shop.but now i have the real mccoy to start breeding from i purchased a pair of good quality birds from a very good flyer in the area who i know through a friend. i ask him to sell something that i can use as a foundation as i am going to start all over again i got two masons from him. which i seen perform and are far superior to what i have and he also loaned me a pair birds to have for a breeding season and see what they produce as he has never had that pair together so heres hoping see what i can do with these ones and by the way ive ended my association with the show birds thes rollers have got me hooked. cheers trev
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GREED FOR SPEED LOFT
56 posts
Jun 04, 2006
6:12 AM
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Shia, first thing i would tell you is not to get discoureged,you will have your good days and REAL bad days,,,, its all about patience and time, never be satisfied with results or knowdledge, keep striveing for better and better,espically you must get to know the difference of quality and of interpetation of roll and style.....Please take your time in chosing stock,,dont just go and buy anything first out of impulse, do your homework first....Remember you cant buy into instant fame with certain family lines because you will be the breeder and the trainer.............GOOD LUCK MY FRIEND,,,,,,,in this adventure............R-LUNA
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FallingStarRoller
11 posts
Jun 04, 2006
4:49 PM
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one advice to new beginner of this HOBBY... this is what happen to me... do not pick your birds by the pretty looking and nice color... pretty looking bird at the store will only give you a hard time... if you R buying birds off of someone try to see some of his birds fly first cause you might only end up with some1 trash...
Yee
Last Edited by FallingStarRoller on Jun 04, 2006 4:50 PM
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