spade_drain
44 posts
Jun 02, 2006
9:27 PM
|
any one know where can i find information on bands initial sound familiar to anyone plz share im sure some's interested....i got these birds i bought n was wanting to know information about them...band initial
MTS
NPA
WRC
CHRC
IPB
ANY INFO WOULD HELP THANX....
|
John
16 posts
Jun 02, 2006
10:21 PM
|
Spade Drain
It would help to know what city or state you are located in because the same letters may be used in more than one state or city. If you give me more info on the MTS bird I may be able to help you out. Just give me the year and band number. NPA- Is most likely National Pigeon Assocation,which can be purchased at pet shops, feed stores and pigeon supply stores. IPB- Is most likely Independent Pigeon Breeder. The others are either club bands or personal bands.
John
Last Edited by John on Jun 02, 2006 10:40 PM
|
spade_drain
45 posts
Jun 02, 2006
10:33 PM
|
yea i live n the fresno of cali....jsut bought some birds off this guy from slobberknockerlofts.com guy name david strait....he says the birds are from cook line but i emailed henry cook on the nbrc site but he says it's not from him not sure how many cook are out there maybe ther'es alot but thats who i know that's a "cook"....the MTS birds bands initial are MTS 100-2002 cock
if u know who these birds came from i would like to talk to him n find little info on them....would love to know where the birds came from n are they good birds...thanx
still for the other initial anyone know plz share with us too...
|
John
17 posts
Jun 02, 2006
10:47 PM
|
Where does David live? I know who bred the bird and I will find if it's out of the Cook line or not. I know the bird was bred in Maryland. Email me at spincityloft@sbcglobal.net and I'll get some information for you.
John
|
dave
104 posts
Jun 03, 2006
12:03 AM
|
Best info would be to get them from David first. It may come from the Cook family but not necessarily directly from Mr. Cook.
Last Edited by dave on Jun 03, 2006 12:06 AM
|
John
18 posts
Jun 03, 2006
6:08 AM
|
I think the best info. would come from the breeder not someone who may have second or third hand info. which could be wrong. I'll ask the breeder to post on this bird once I make contact with he today.
John
|
spade_drain
46 posts
Jun 03, 2006
11:31 AM
|
yea john
tats where im trying to get at i wanting to get info straigt from the breeder and ask his opinion but yea anyone with info on this birds or have birds with these initial i would lvoe to heard what they've experience breeding or flying these birds...i would please to hear it from u too...thanx...yea john c if u can get as much info as u can from the breeder n ask him if its ok if i can get his number or an email adress would be ok...thanx
|
birdman
180 posts
Jun 03, 2006
2:12 PM
|
They could be from Jim Cook. He has an ad in the NBRC bulletin every month.
|
Agent526
6 posts
Jun 03, 2006
8:53 PM
|
spade drain
I am Steve the president of MTS (Maryland True Spinners). That is a Cook bird Jim Cook. The guy who bred it no longer have any of Jim's birds. If you want more info on it i'll try to get it for you. The Chrc is for Chesapeke Roller Club here in Maryland.
Steve
|
rollerpigeon1963
81 posts
Jun 03, 2006
9:00 PM
|
Hey Bud,
David Strait lives in Pa. If you visit the NBRC website and click area events and then click Pa. You will see David's email address and the town he lives in. There is also a photo of David with Mel Stalzer. David is a good friend of mine, but I never have met him face to face. And I believe you can take what he tells you to be the truth. If he told you the birds he sent you is out of his Cook blood then I myself would believe him. Those band numbers were probably his own.I hope this helps!
Brian Middaugh
www.nbrconline.com
|
John
19 posts
Jun 03, 2006
9:15 PM
|
Spade Drain,
MTS stands Maryland True Spinners and the person who bred the bird is Hassan Rasheed.If you have a March - April NBRC bulletin you can find there club info. in the back.I also think you can find them on the NBRC on line as well.If not contact their president Steve Agent who's email address is on the NBRC on line under Maryland. I hope this helps.
I went to visit Maryland last weekend to meet Steve Agent and the guys and Girls from the MTS. I also met Ray Felming And Elric Jekins there. We saw some very nice birds and if any one of those gentlemen read this they can tell about the birds that the guys from Maryland fly (MTS). All the Guys in the club all fly the same family of birds so you see the same thing at everyones house.One Kit stood out and it was a kit flown by Don Glenn, this was best kit I have seen in years.
John
Last Edited by John on Jun 03, 2006 9:18 PM
|
spade_drain
47 posts
Jun 03, 2006
10:47 PM
|
oh sup steve
wow...talk'n to the president of MTS so kewl yea nice knowing have birds from you guys n thanks for the info really help me ...yea now when i need help on the birds i'll jsut ask you yea n if u dotn mind can i get ur email... thanx
yo john...
sorry if i made you go through all those troubles for some info but thanx u really helped me nice knowign there's someone like you out there help'n out rookies in the sport..thanx.
n for all you guys tat helped me out thanx to all too...
|
Agent526
7 posts
Jun 04, 2006
7:20 AM
|
Spade drain
I am the only one in our club who had Henry Cooks birds and I didn't have them in 2002. I got them at the end of 2003. Hassan only had Jim Cooks birds. I don't know where David got the bird from, but I do know he did not get it from Hassan. When Hassan changed families I personally sold them all for him. I don't know David Stait never met him and definitly did not sell him any birds.I sold most of the birds to the local feed stores here in Baltimore city. Someone pulled the wool over Davids eyes. The bird is out of Jim Cook line. By the way what color is the bird? Back in 2002 Hassan had a lot of rare colors. I know this to be true, because he got them from me and I got more from Jim Cook for him. If you need any more info email me at sagent69@msn.com
Steve
|
spade_drain
48 posts
Jun 04, 2006
12:04 PM
|
yea steve i send u the description of the birds already...but jsut saying it again n sorry to cause all these troubles you guys went through yea my birds are homozygous andalusians color with grayish bald head...
here's the pix of the birds (not sure if the color's rite)
cock MTS 100-02
hen MTS 90-02
Last Edited by spade_drain on Jun 04, 2006 12:12 PM
|
Agent526
8 posts
Jun 04, 2006
12:47 PM
|
Spade
They are definitly Jim Cook birds bred by Hassan both of them. Jim and I call them faded homozagous. I had some that would roll about 60 feet, but they all would end up dead. No brakes. So, someone is telling a untruth and it's not me. Henry Cook don't have any rare colors. Those birds were not sold to David by me and if need be he or anyone else can contact me personally.
Steve
|
spade_drain
49 posts
Jun 04, 2006
3:55 PM
|
kewl....thanx for helping me finding info on them wow 60 feet sound nice yea the guy tat i bought it from says it produced some really good spinners 25-30 feet says i'll be doign great with these two...yea im sure david didnt get them from you but knowing the past about these birds really interest me into c'n the outcome will be...thanx
|
Velo99
472 posts
Jun 04, 2006
4:18 PM
|
How about the WHP band? I think it might be Kiser but I am not sure.
How about AERS and HRC?
Any help is appreciated.
v99
|
birdman
181 posts
Jun 04, 2006
4:25 PM
|
Just a guess but AERS (All England Roller Society) HRC (Harbourne Roller Club).
Russ
|
rollerpigeon1963
82 posts
Jun 04, 2006
4:36 PM
|
Hey Steve,
I believe they were sold as Cook birds. Spade only knew of only one Cook and thought it was Henry. But as you said it was Definitly Jim Cook. So I guess they were Cook birds after all. So who was speaking the untruth? If you said they were Cooks blood and they were of color that you knew of Jim having and they have Jims bands of the MTS must be Cook blood LOL LOL. Another thing maybe David shops at that feed store. LOL LOL (He does live within 2 1/2 hours of Baltimore City and closer to Baltimore}
Brian
Last Edited by rollerpigeon1963 on Jun 04, 2006 5:01 PM
|
Bluesman
Pigeon Fancier
744 posts
Jun 05, 2006
4:20 AM
|
Brian. I have been watching this thread get all twisted up.Like a roundtable sentence that starts at one and when it gets back it is completly different.LOL.
The pics and description of these rollers are still up on my sale page if anyone wants to see it.Funny how some feels like Lies is told just by hearsay.
Steve you need to get the story straight before making accusations.And by the way Yee and I email each other daily about rollers.David
|
Agent526
9 posts
Jun 05, 2006
6:14 AM
|
David,
You must be the seller. Did you know what MTS stood for before it was posted on this site. If so why didn't you tell him. Where and who did you get the birds from? How do you know what they are? Do you have pedigrees on them? Or you just took the persons word. The way it looks I know more of the story than you. I have help out the guy who has the birds now that's what matters.
Steve
|
Bluesman
Pigeon Fancier
745 posts
Jun 05, 2006
7:18 AM
|
Steve.Yes I sold these birds to Yee.I never knew what mts stood for and never cared.I told Yee in an email I thought they were from the Jim Cook family.No I don't have pedigrees on these birds.The reason I know what they are is I have bred from them for almost a year.They do not have the Faded gene in them that I know of.It is none of your business where I got the birds from but it was from someone close to you.You are the one that said an untruth was being told and it wasn't you.Go back and read all the post and tell us where you came to the conclusion that an untruth was told.As I said earlier Yee and I email each other daily about rollers and he will tell you I answer any questions he has if I know the answers.As for helping you sure tried to make a big thing out of nothing.You just drew your own conclusions.Never did anyone say anything about the birds being from Henry Cook except this was the only Cook Yee knew.Hope this has cleared this up so you understand what is truth. David
|
spade_drain
50 posts
Jun 05, 2006
1:38 PM
|
hey david wassup
hi this is yee little bro yea it was me who made all the confusion i was ask'n what does mts stands for n wanted to find out info on them yea u said it was from cook line but i thought it was from henry cook cuz tats the only one i knew so i emailed him n he said its not his so i was confused tat the birds wasnt really cook line so i post it up but like a day later yee emailed u ask'n what the line was from n u told him it was from jim cook line so yea after that the forum was shoot'n so i just got more info on them so sorry if they accuse u of tell'n the wrong info which u never did...n steve sorry for the confusion david told me info but it was kind of later cuz i posted the forum a little early which i could've wait for david respond but conclusion no one is wrong both rite n yea i got alot of info thanx....hope this solve it
|