Velo99
498 posts
Jun 19, 2006
3:34 PM
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You hinted you have been in the game for a while. What kind of birds do you fly? How long have you been breeding the birds you have? What kind of setup do you use?
I think it would be sweet to get to the point that you have an open loft.All the breeders related and on the same level. Would be so sweet.
I have two kitboxes and need one more for holdovers. My wife told me that I needed to bulid another building like the breeder loft and make a three kitbox setup with an adjoining landing. Far be it from me to argue with her on that point. She wants to me landscape it,I will landscape it and make it sooo pretty.I will do anything for my pigeon mama as long as she talks to me like that. lmao
yits
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jammerlofts
15 posts
Jun 19, 2006
4:04 PM
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Hi,
first of all I never even mentioned having rollers at all, but I have nothing to hide...I do have 4 of them they are all 06 young birds that a very good friend of mine bred for me, to be truthful I have no idea what there family or background is. I have been into fancier breeds for many years now and am just starting to take a larger interest in rollers.
So, as for the comment about an open loft with everything related no I do not and i have no idea where you came up with that. Everything I do have is bred in individual pens with nothing inbred or crossbred. i do not breed mongral pigeons.
If you want to have a debate about roller knowledge I am positive that you would win hands down as I am just learning and actually came to this site with the intention of seeing what I could learn.
When it comes to fancier pigeon breeds I am extremely knowledgable though.
I have recently been in contact with a person in Maine where I live who has been into rollers since the 1970's and is going to give me some of his at no charge to help me get started. I had offered to pay him but he has refused the money because he is more interested in keeping the hobby alive than making a buck. How great is that I ask!!! His birds are of the Pensom family.
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knaylor
242 posts
Jun 19, 2006
4:14 PM
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Jammer, you say that you came hear to learn. From your first post you dont seem to be too interested in learning. If you truly want to learn sit back read and ask questions and listen to ALL of the answeres. You will get different ones from time to time. Try them and see what works for you. Kevin
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jammerlofts
16 posts
Jun 19, 2006
4:23 PM
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Hi again,
First off this is an entirely differnt post than the STUPID NEST BOWL INCIDENT, it seems to me that the only poepl who can let it go and move on are Tony and I. hmmmm...maybe thats because we are too busy and don't care to waste anymore time or energy on something STUPID THAT never should have gone as far as it did in the first place as I have already stated.
Now alright already can we please get back to dscussing ROLLERS....
what family of rollers do you all think is the best?? I am curious what people think as I am just starting out in Rollers
JC
Jammerlofts
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knaylor
243 posts
Jun 19, 2006
4:37 PM
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Jammer, good question. But there is not true answer. The best family is the one that works best for you situation. Depends on how often you can fly, how long during the year you can fly. It also depends on the type of bird you are looking for. If you need birds to come into the roll at an earlier age and are easier to manage then i would lean towards the jacconettes. The pensoms are a harder family to manage but as a whole you get better quality spinners. They also dont come into the roll as soon as most jacs. You will also find that you can get a tonn if info on this site because most everyone here competes and has plenty of very usefull info to share. Kevin
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GREED FOR SPEED LOFT
75 posts
Jun 19, 2006
4:41 PM
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JC ,Well first of all welcome to the roller sport. I to was surprised of how items have gone up in price myself, i had my nesting bowls made in clay down at the south of the border for only a buck, and they lasted forever, then i had to move and i gave things away and trying to restock on items, i was surprised on high things went up, but oh well i had to adjust. IT'S to bad things got out of hand at first, these guy's here, on this site ,i'm sure they would give a helping hand to get you started, they are i'm sure some great people here on this site (kind and gracious), so lets get on the right track and iron out the wrinkles ,if you need help let me know just ask.... Life is to short to have quarrels-grudges and to cheat ourseleves out of enjoyment in life....... Later Dude.... R-Luna
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Tony Chavarria
Site Publisher
654 posts
Jun 19, 2006
4:49 PM
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Hey JC, yeah, you're right, I have been busy all day and I am dog tired right now but Joni (my wife and business partner) and I are on the way to the loft and clean the breeder pens.
She has really gotten into the business part of things and if it were not for her, all your orders would go out weeks late! LOL
She also helps with cleaning the lofts (we are required to wear our Muck boots or we (meaning me) can't go back into the house!LOL) and she often feeds and waters the breeders, kit birds and the birds in the separation pens all on her own! This city girl I married is turning into a country girl right before my eyes. hehehe
Man am I blessed!
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FLY ON! Tony Chavarria
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nicksiders
636 posts
Jun 19, 2006
4:50 PM
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Jammer,
That is going to be a hard question to answer. Many good families out thier. I would visit the backyards of some local flyers and pick them out of the air if at all possible. The NBRC membership list can give you some contact names.
I will say the most important thing you do is to get the best stock you can find and afford amd build from there.
Nick
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Santandercol
120 posts
Jun 19, 2006
9:50 PM
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Hey Jammer and everybody!!!
Glad to see we're all chillin' finally.I think I felt a few other hearts beatin'faster through the ol' internet connection here.Phew!!Yeah,,here to learn and enjoy.
About obtaining rollers for free,(and I'm not putting down anyone who is lucky enough to be able to find a market for them)it is nice when you can run into folks who will give you birds just to see more people interested in the hobby.I've got room for another 50 kitbirds so the guys in the BC roller club here in Canada have offered to raise birds for me to have just so I can get a worthy kit together to compete with by 2007 WC fly.Let's see if I can train them properly eh.!?That's where this website comes in really handy,,but ya gotta read the sucker,theres alot hidden in these threads.Theres also alot of freindly folks here,so,welcome anyways,and let's bury the hatchet.Noooo,not in your mouse.It's cool dude.Hugs all around,
Kel.
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mammoth hill lofts
7 posts
Jun 20, 2006
6:56 AM
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Hello JC, Since you live in Maine.you must be in touch with Tom VD Bossche, Sonny Hillary or Barry Thorndike. If you are than you are most fortunate, I can't say enough about the generousity and kindness of those guys.If it isn't them-you should get to know them. Most of thier birds are down from the Easley/Starley line of Pensom birds. As Kevin N. said the style & quality of those birds are exceptional and your focus should be towards finding the more frequent types for breeding. They tend to come into the roll from 8 months to a year. Best of Luck with the rollers and the guys on this list are very passionate and helpful about them. Mammoth
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Heyyou
4 posts
Jun 20, 2006
9:26 PM
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I have to agree about getting the best birds your budget, space and intentions will allow. I just got my first kit into the air today after 35 years and what a great feeling to watch a few slides, couple of rolls, birds everywhere and being nervous. after about 20 minutes most came together going in circles, some dropped looking for a meal, but the most important thing, I didn't lose a bird, even when the red tails showed up and spooked them high. I have some turners, Neibels, pensom/compton and some with questionable parentage I'm sure but all fly and most all will roll I have no doubt. I have some dollars in them and more dollars in the birds in the stock loft but the potential is all I see. I have more birds on the way from two different locations all with good backgrounds, but the one thing I look forward to the most is being able to get someone else started in the future when I have some birds I know are worth the time and effort. I really appreciate all those that have sent me directions to go in and people to contact. Thanks to all, Bill White, Kalama, Wa
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C.J.
243 posts
Jun 21, 2006
3:26 AM
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Bill great to hear you are doing well. Welcome to the site. I hope you enjoy yourself here. I think I speak for us all when I say feel free to ask all of us anything we need the excitement.
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Heyyou
5 posts
Jun 21, 2006
7:02 PM
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Thank you and you can bet I will pick your brains. Flew again today and right away lost one to a cooper hawk and it hit another but it came back slightly dazed. I let out the 16 birds and got back 14 and might get one more. The neighbor says he will give me a couple of homers, babies, that I plan on letting out first just to wear out the coopers and see if they are around. I have 10 more birds arriving in the morning, young birds, so I will have two kits to fly and develop and I have some sitting on eggs. I plan on having four full kits and one with extra birds for a total of five and I have room for two more.I have room and nest boxes for 16 pair of breeders at the moment. I am having more fun than I did with my first car, until I had a girlfriend of course. cheers to all.
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