SSPHXSPINNERS
1 post
Jun 22, 2006
2:51 PM
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WHAT SHOULD YOU FEED YOUR KIT BIRDS MILO/WHEAT OR GRAIN
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nicksiders
646 posts
Jun 22, 2006
8:15 PM
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Milo and wheat are grains. Grains are best for kit birds as opposed to pellets. There are those who do feed pellets of some level to thier kit birds, but they are few. I know of one who has had success with pellet feeding thier kit birds(Paul Fullerton).
Over all grains tend to made the kit birds more active as opposed to pellets. There also other grains that kit birds do well on besides milo/wheat.
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Snicker Rollers
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tapp
100 posts
Jun 22, 2006
8:22 PM
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SSPHXPS, milo/wheat is a grain. If they are yound birds feed them a good mix of grains, wheat, milo, salflour,peas, ext. There is a lot of good mixed grains.I use a 14 percent mix. If they are old birds then you can play with them.I'm not that far yet. I think a lot of flyers use wheat as a base feed.If they are a young kit let them be pigeons. And fly them till they are in the roll good. Then try wheat/ milo/ barly/ it takes alot of flying and years to learn your birds. I haven't got a lot of time under my belt, Just some common sence stuff I heard from some stable comp. flyers. Read some of the other post. There is a lot on feeding. Good luck!
Kim Tappenden
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Tapp
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tapp
101 posts
Jun 22, 2006
8:25 PM
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Sorry Nick I must have posted the same time I'm slow on typing! Tapp
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Tapp
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nicksiders
648 posts
Jun 22, 2006
8:45 PM
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Hey Kim,
Haven't heard from you in awhile. Everything all right with you?
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Snicker Rollers
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tapp
102 posts
Jun 23, 2006
10:37 AM
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Yea Nick just breeding pigeons and flying. having FUN!
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Tapp
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Velo99
506 posts
Jun 23, 2006
3:21 PM
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Hey Nick
You forgot about me. I feed pellets instead of peas. I can`t get them here. 14% in the summer 18% in the winter.
Usually 1 1/2 cups w/m and 1/2 pellets for 22 birds. Flew 507 in the quals on this feed.
yits
v99
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If they don`t kit,they don`t perform.
It`s a comp thing,understand?
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fhtfire
491 posts
Jun 23, 2006
4:56 PM
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I am the same as Velo99..I use pellets in place of the peas. I use 28% and mix a 5parts wheat/milo to 1 part pellet. They DO NOT consume more water using pellets vs. grains...the reason being is that it is really cut with the grain. It took over a year to find the right mixture of pellets to wheat/milo. I also kept track of water consumption..no difference...but if you use 1 part grain to 1 part pellet like I do to my breeders they consume a lot more water. I use pellet with my breeders just during breeding season...during the winter they get the standard pigeon mix by "Winners Cup".
During the moult my birds get a tad more pellet mix and I go heavy on the sauflower to get them through the moult...I could care less about performance during the molt.
Old birds get Wheat/milo...most of the time and the pellet mix based on how they feel in the hand.
young birds get all they want of the pellet mix (as long as they trap well)..until they come into the roll...then I play with the feed a little bit.
rock and ROLL
Paul
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nicksiders
653 posts
Jun 23, 2006
10:17 PM
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Paul said something that cought my attention. The statement "depending how they feel in my hand" is a very important one when measuring the total health of your birds. They will tell you when they need a diet change sometime even before it shows in the performance by how they feel in your hand. A very important tool.
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Snicker Rollers
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Velo99
511 posts
Jun 24, 2006
2:52 PM
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This is something I have learned in the three years I have been raising rollers. Don`t do anything but fly them and feed them till after the first moult.In between the moment of hatching and completing the moult they will change inumerable times.They will change even more during the three months after the moult as well.
Point is enjoy watching them fly and don`t overanalyze the first six months,or seven or eight.At nine months they should be "mature" and bear "testing out". Then you should really not cull any performer until he is two years old.
mho
v99
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If they don`t kit,they don`t perform.
It`s a comp thing,understand?
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