chachi
8 posts
Jul 04, 2006
10:11 AM
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Hello all,
Have been breeding right along. Have put out a few birds that their pupls of off center. I have noticed that after the first moult and they gain a litle age after a couple months that their eyes straiten out and their pupils become alittle more defined. I read somewwhere in the posts that someone had a few birds that were roll downs that he had noticed the birds whose pupils were slightly forward and toward the corner of the eyes that they were hot and hit the ground alot. I don't want to breed these birds, but I have had to rebuild without flying due to loses. I will fly these bireds out, but right now i am trying to get my numbers up. I will be culling soon. was wondering what the thoughts on these puplis being slightly forward say to you all? I have bul eyed birds, birds coming out with bull in one eye and white in the other? what are your thoughts about that? wife jammerin' at me to go! Happy 4th of July to all!
ChaChi
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GREED FOR SPEED LOFT
91 posts
Jul 04, 2006
11:05 AM
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Chachi, the usual roll down eyes are rather centered and wide(pupil) in the middle with out any reflex. Thats the sign of them being to caliente. They are also other properties that would contribute to birds rolling down, such as weak muscles and a weak back.A off centered eye does not nessecarly mean a roll down........
Later Dude......... R-LUNA
Last Edited by GREED FOR SPEED LOFT on Jul 04, 2006 11:05 AM
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parlorfancier916
79 posts
Jul 04, 2006
12:28 PM
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he's right, it doesn't depend on the eyes that make it a rolldown, it is either the muscle tones or genes of the bird that determine the bird to be a rolldown. not the eyes, if so I have a few hommers(pumpers) that have those type of eyes, but I don't see them doing rolldowns.. :D
Doua
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dave
118 posts
Jul 04, 2006
12:59 PM
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Parlor,
you are one funny dude, lol. I was hoping to see some of you guys up there when the NCRC had their bbq at Dwight's house.
If you know your birds and study their eyes then you can kind of tell which ones will give you trouble.
Last Edited by dave on Jul 04, 2006 1:00 PM
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motherlodelofts
834 posts
Jul 04, 2006
1:37 PM
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Usualy it does indicate heat , doesn't mean it is a cull either though, keep flying them hard and find out.
Scott
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nicksiders
682 posts
Jul 04, 2006
1:42 PM
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Eye signing in rollers?(LOL)I don't believe eye signing can tell you a thing even in racing birds. It will vary from family to family what the eyes look like in the best performers of that family. I do look at the eyes checking for health signs plus my better birds tend to have the same look. I also have a good breeding hen that has a cracked eye(I call it a "dirty pupil") and when she turns out an offspring with the same type eye it is usually a good performer. In another family in another loft the same eye may be junk. So, to show me the eye of your bird will not mean a thing to me because the same eye characteristic in my family may not represent the same quality.......I say the same when it comes to racing birds as well.
By the way, my best performers kinda have an oval shaped pupil.....but .....(LOL)
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Snicker Rollers
Last Edited by nicksiders on Jul 04, 2006 1:44 PM
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GREED FOR SPEED LOFT
93 posts
Jul 04, 2006
2:15 PM
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Eye signs do hold a validity across the board in general in all familys, we just have to study and observe, not just in our own familys but in all lofts as much as possible. WE should study even our culls or hot , rolldowns, pigeons. IT is not the only way we can tell a good bird ,but a and i emphasis (A)sign of bird reading, along with other charastaristics.
R-LUNA
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thong
12 posts
Jul 04, 2006
3:56 PM
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I have tried the flex method, about 60% accuracy.
thong
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parlorfancier916
81 posts
Jul 04, 2006
5:27 PM
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Dave,
there was a bbq? didn't hear anything...
Last Edited by parlorfancier916 on Jul 04, 2006 5:28 PM
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dave
120 posts
Jul 04, 2006
6:47 PM
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Yes, Kevin Naylor posted it on here and invited everyone to join them.
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parlorfancier916
83 posts
Jul 04, 2006
10:01 PM
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oh shoot, thought that was only for the members in the NCRC allwell, there's always next time..
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