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Tony Chavarria
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759 posts
Jul 21, 2006
12:17 PM
Hey All, who here knows their roller family well enough to have intentionally never flown a certain youngster or two and just knew with high certainty that the offspring would come out with the "goods" and then did?

Has anyone done this more than once?
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FLY ON! Tony Chavarria

MCCORMICKLOFTS
651 posts
Jul 21, 2006
12:27 PM
Can't say that I have Tony. I fly ALL of my young birds out. I did raise a round for my friend Randy this year as the cock was his and the hen is mine. One of the youngsters from that pair was just dynamite looking and I could see an overwhelming resemblence to others from this family which ended up being great performers. I told him when I gave them to him that if he intended on flying that young one out, that I wasn't going to give it to him and I would pull an older sibling from the box instead. After some dicussion he agreed to my terms and stocked the bird rather than fly it. I have no doubt it will be a wise decision.
I almost stocked a cock last year as I just loved the way he looked. He looked the part for this family. I didn't and flew him out. He was stronger than I expected, but faster too. I finally did stock him at the end of the year and so far the young ones are starting to come in good. Time will tell.
Scott sent me a cock bird last year that was never flown. He didn't fly him or his brother. Apparently his brother and mother are excellent producers for him. I used this cock on an outstanding old hen from the same family background which I had flown for years. They raised four young ones, three of which were waaaaay too hot and "disappeared". The one exception is a red check hen that most of the time, will make the hair on the back of your neck stand up! She is the epitome of teetering on the fine edge between heat and stiffness.
BMC
Tony Chavarria
Site Publisher
760 posts
Jul 21, 2006
12:42 PM
Hey Brian,
I too normally fly out my birds, this is a given, but I am asking who has successfully done this?

I have done it many times. One notable one is I did it with a lavendar cock, never flew it, then I bred it and it produced a lavendar son which I stocked away and never flew, well this lavendar cock now produces outstanding spinners of which I am starting to hold onto several of them and will more than likely begin developing this leg of my family along some others.

I guess, another way the question can be asked is can you recognize those birds as young birds with the juice and does flying them out prove it to you?
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FLY ON! Tony Chavarria

MCCORMICKLOFTS
654 posts
Jul 21, 2006
12:48 PM
As we know, the best spinners aren't always the best producers. Generally the really young ones I think I like or ones that catch my eye, usually don't end up to be the best performer. There have been a few exceptions, but overall, it is the just normal, hum-drum looking ones that end up being the ones that do it well enough for the A team. I could park a young one from my B.E. family with confidence now. I couldn't do that with my Horner or Reed family though. I like to know what they are like mentally under the stresses of hard performance. That is what always bothers me about stocking a bird without flying it, you don't know what it's character will be like under pressure. It's a gut thing and sometimes it works which it has for you and other times it doesn't
I can say that my three best producing horner birds were, not by choice, never flown.
Brian


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