Alohazona
182 posts
Aug 29, 2006
8:24 PM
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Landing in the trees or even the neighbors roof is not good.If they have done this 5 times or more,they might be forming a bad habit that can bring otherwise good birds down to do the same.You can try to box them up and release them from some different points in the general neighborhood,that will hopefully straighten 1 or 2 of them out.If the numbers increase and they probably will,rolling or not they will need to go.I have have 4 doing the neighbors roof thing,they will not be here next week.Aloha,Todd
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Santandercol
282 posts
Aug 29, 2006
8:56 PM
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Hey Edrick!!!
Welcome!!!Training has a lot to do with your problem.Don't be patient with them sitting in the trees.I have stashes around my yard of windfall pears and apples,tennis balls(don't use rocks!!the neighbours won't like it.)to throw at them when they land in trees or on the roof next door.Good luck with your birds.
Yours in the sport,
Kelly.
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tapp
122 posts
Aug 29, 2006
8:59 PM
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Edrick ,If they are landing in the trees for the last four months I say you let them get away with it for three months and 6 days is to long! Now you are going to have
to do a lot of flagging them up or a lot of head pulling! Next time don't let them go this long ,doing there own thing. YOU'r are in control.Only my opion.
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Tapp
Last Edited by tapp on Aug 29, 2006 9:01 PM
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Huey
16 posts
Aug 30, 2006
11:42 AM
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My first kit started landing on a power line after flying for a few minutes. I flagged them off the power line and they flew until they were give out. Then landed in a tree.
With in a few days they didn't fly at all. Just went straight to their tree. I put Some older birds that were flying good with them. They started going to the tree also. By increasing, decreasing, or changing feed all I did was control how long they sit in the tree. I think they intended to be tree birds for the rest of their life.
I have a small kit of seven that are seven weeks old now. I am letting them out for an hour every afternoon. They trap in two seconds after I whistle. I am only feeding them about 1/2 cup per day now. Seems like I am starving them. I plan to flag them up Friday or Saturday.
I hope these fly. It seems like its been a long year waiting.
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katyroller
48 posts
Aug 30, 2006
7:04 PM
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Huey,
If I were in your shoes I wouldn't try to fly the new birds with the tree sitters. With the tree sitters I would try flying two at a time and try to see if there are certain birds that keep making the rest land in the trees. My guess would be you were overfeeding when you started trying to fly these tree sitters. Also you could just cull all the tree sitters and start again with the new birds. I do not flag young birds off the kit box. I have found that my young birds will take to the wing when they are ready. I train my birds to feel that the only safe place to land is on the kit box. If you are flagging them off the kit box they will start landing in places where you can't get to them and they will start feeling safe from YOU. You don't want birds that are afraid of you. You seem to have them trap trained well, so just give them time to take off on their on. True BR's love to fly unless they are starving. Good Luck!
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Huey
17 posts
Aug 31, 2006
7:36 AM
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I took a 22 to each pigeon who liked trees.
My new kit flew yesterday on their own for a couple minutes. Then landed on my Barn. It has a metal roof same color as their kit box. Wish I had used different color on the kit.
Some one told me to spray them with water. Water worked. I had to spray them a couple times before they went back to the kit box.
I will give them a few more days then instead of flagging them. I have let them out on their own each evening since Friday.
Right now they do or did feel secure on the kit box. A horse rolling in the corral scared them off yesterday. I assume they will get used to the horses.
Thanks.
Last Edited by Huey on Aug 31, 2006 7:49 AM
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siddiqir
264 posts
Aug 31, 2006
7:51 AM
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Control the birds with feed. If they go and sit in tree then the chances are they are overfed. What you feed and how much you feed? Also, there may be a bird or two which are problematic. Watch the birds when release, look for the bird which try to sit on tree first. Seprate it from the kit and try again.
Are they parasites free (worms, lices, mites). This is another thing which bothers birds and they do not want to fly.
Finally, make sure they are from *performing* stock and NOT *show* rollers? If there not from performing stock then you are simply wasting you time…
Last Edited by siddiqir on Aug 31, 2006 7:59 AM
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Huey
18 posts
Aug 31, 2006
8:05 AM
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How do pigeons get worms? The're never on the ground.
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J_Star
584 posts
Aug 31, 2006
11:16 AM
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From other pigeons. Usually pigeons eat seeds that have droppings on it (contaminated). Sometimes they eat their own droppings too. Continuous moisture or wet loft brings that stuff to the surface. There is medication that you can administer for a day that will get red of the worms.
Jay
Last Edited by J_Star on Aug 31, 2006 11:16 AM
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STARFIRE
53 posts
Aug 31, 2006
4:16 PM
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hey guys;
I have a ravine behind me,and sometime a bird or two will want to go and sit in one of them.To get them down and away from the trees, I stop feeding them.If they continue to go there after 5-6 days,with NO feed I kill them.If your birds have been going in the trees for 4 months they are a lost cause.
They will ruin all your other birds if you let them out with the treesitters.Do yourself a favour and get rid of them.Usually if you don't feed them they will start to come back to the flycoop,in a couple of days ,but some just will not.
Stan Arnold
STARFIRE
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