Mongrel Lofts
201 posts
Aug 30, 2006
6:53 PM
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Now, if anyone out there believes this information about magic Roller Juice, you probably also believe the EC information coming out in the next NBRC bulletin. If you believe the EC closely followed the by-laws every step of the way, YOU'RE WRONG. If you believe that all the men on the EC that sat in judgment and rendered their decision were unbiased and impartial, YOU'RE WRONG. We had statements right here in open discussion, where men on the EC claimed to "be friends" with both parties. Why do you think any legal court demands judges and jury's to be impartial? What do you think happens, if a juror claimed to be "friends" with the accused? You think the judge says, " That's nice, have a seat." Hell NO! he gets booted off the jury. Same thing if the judge is friends with the accused. But our EC let impartiality fly right out the window.
Nobody is saying something did not happen, it happened. But it is none of the NBRC's business. Besides, If the NBRC EC thought this was such a black and white issue, why did not one member of the EC file a written valid grievance. They had as much information as Danny did. Think about it before you believe the story that some will tell you, were they impartial, were they eye witnesses to the incident, did they question the men involved, did they question the eye witnesses? Or did they say "the bylaws say we must act like gentlemen at all times and these men acted ungentlemanly". I say one acted like an asshole and the other acted in self defense after he was provoked. But either way, I do not see it being something the NBRC needs to stick their nose in.
WE had an election and Bobby Bradley won the VP position. Let's vote again and speak loud and clear who we want for the VP of the NBRC.
Mr common sense..
PS.. I didn't write this, but I agree with every word of it.. I'm passing it on to all you who will be voting,, Please vote to reinstate a good honest man who reacted just like anyone of you would, if threatened on your own property.. I have talked with many of you.. I know many of you personally. If you had a problem with a man for 4 years and asked them not to come to your house and they did anyway.. If that person then laid hands on you and threatened to kick your ass,, You would react just a Bobby Bradley did.. We are men and I would expect nothing less from any of you..Be honest with yourself, doesn't a man have the right to defend himself on his own property? Being on a fly doesn't give protection to anyone who wants to threaten or harm you.. Does it? If that person who wrote The above wants to take credit, please jump right in.. KGB
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katyroller
49 posts
Aug 30, 2006
7:54 PM
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Mongrel,
C'mon man spill the beans! Am I to understand a fly erupted into a fight? If so, that is just ridiculous. I have heard of minor arguments or unpleasant comments being made but never a fight. This sport is supposed to be enjoyable, not hazardous to your health. Imagine attending a fly and everyone's packing heat and watching each other instead of the kit that's flying. Maybe that's why some of the BEST flyers I have met were FORMER competitors.
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Mongrel Lofts
202 posts
Aug 30, 2006
8:41 PM
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Katy,
yea,, two old men,, one 73 and the other in his 60's I believe. Had an on going problem for about 4 years.. They used to be friends but things change.. Words got exchanged, then hands got laid on one of the men and he was threatened in his own yard.. Two old gummers with a personal feud had a tussle.. I'm pretty sure we don't have to worry about 70 year old men running around fighting all the time..This was a one time incident.. Apologies have been made.. This effected no one and was a personal thing between to old gentlemen. Of course a few who weren't there or were not involved felt they had to turn this into a huge ordeal.. Mostly because they could and they like one of the parties involved and they could.. SO they did,, now we have mess.. What ever happened to Men in this country? Mongrel lofts
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Opinionated Blowhard
68 posts
Aug 31, 2006
9:43 AM
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Thankyou for the information mongrel. The ones who should be punished by the club are those who reported each other to the police and those in the club who made this molehill into a mountain. They are hurting the club more than the 2 old men who got into the 10 minute fight. Some idiots are saying that this action is to make sure we can feel safe at competitions. I dont think anybody has ever felt unsafe at a competition. All this baloney was a waste of time by the club. Kevin
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tapp
123 posts
Aug 31, 2006
11:03 AM
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A-Men, Kevin
Tapp
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J_Star
583 posts
Aug 31, 2006
11:10 AM
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WOW...Who said there is no excitement in the roller competition world!!! Remember that somebody might have an agenda for whatever reason...
Jay
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kcfirl
24 posts
Aug 31, 2006
12:45 PM
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List,
I disagree entirely with what Mr. Billings posted. I believe the EC of the NBRC did a commendable job handling this situation. I communicayed with Bobby Bradley directly and there was plenty he could have done to avoid the situatin in my opinion.
Posting comments that insinuate the EC has some ulterior motive and then giving any profe is a waste of time and a deliberate attempt to mislead the sheep.
Did Hester antagonize Bobby - probably. Did Bobby react innapropriately - absolutely per the NBRC bylaws.
there were many ways Bobby could have avoided the situation but chose a physical confrontation instead. If booby had been contrite, admitted he made a mistake and accepted the consequence, I would probably vote for him the next time he runs.
As it is, he is saying it's everybody's fault but his own.
Sincerely,
Ken Firl
PS. I beleive the EC members are to be commended for making a tough decision that is the right one based on the bylaws. I support them in this 100%.
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Bluesman
Pigeon Fancier
785 posts
Aug 31, 2006
1:14 PM
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Ken Firl.Will all the info be printed in the next NBRC Bulletin for everone to read before we vote? David
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kcfirl
25 posts
Aug 31, 2006
2:19 PM
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all,
There is a lot of info in the bulletin but what was lacking to me was a direct explanation from Bobby on what he did and why. So I asked him directly and he gave me a response.
Although I could understand better why Bobby did what he did, I still feel that the bylaws were violated and that Bobby could have handled the situation in a different way.
Bottom line - my thinking on the matter didn't change much from what Bobby wrote to me.
Sincerely,
Ken Firl
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Alohazona
184 posts
Aug 31, 2006
2:39 PM
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I agree with Kevin,
BIG WASTE of club time already!!...I say,serve up these two old farts their prune juice,give'um each a lemon to suck on,and make them stand facing the barnwall at the next fly,LOL.Theres your by-laws....Aloha,Todd
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Ally Mac
104 posts
Aug 31, 2006
3:34 PM
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Todd.
I am in no way involved with this situation but I have had a bad day, am fed up, lost a bird to a peregrine today and really scunnered.
You just put a smile on my face.
Cheers.
Al.
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fhtfire
564 posts
Aug 31, 2006
5:41 PM
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Have a cage match...put the old birds in head gear and some of the big giant boxing gloves and let them go at it. Maybe the SUMO suits would work too! That way nobody gets hurt and it would be fun to watch.,..!!
I do not know what happened..but fighting us UNACCEPTABLE at any fly. If the fly was an NBRC fly then they have every right to uphold the bylaws. If it was just a club fly, then the club would have to deal with the situation..if it was just a regular old back yard fly...then it is nobodys business...If it was NOT an NBRC fly..then they have no right to step in at all. Anyway....lets let the people that have to handle it...well...handle it. If you want to fight...there is well...boxing, cage fighting, karate...and the list goes on...Again, I was not a witness to anything..but fighting is kids stuff...if you want to duke it out...set a time at your local boxing gym...they will give you ring time.
rock and ROLL
Paul
Last Edited by fhtfire on Aug 31, 2006 5:43 PM
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J_Star
586 posts
Sep 07, 2006
5:09 AM
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I stayed out of this discussion because I didn't know what happened and what you guys were talking about until I received my NBRC bulletin and I was able to read the whole thing.
I understand that both gentlemen have their supporters and what they contributed to this hobby and that is very nice and dandy. As I am a person who doesn’t know both gentlemen and impartial to any of them….I truly believes that the NBRC fly judge did the right thing to report the incident to the organization and the police did the right investigation and the decision the NBRC committee came out with the first time was the most appropriate disciplinary action. I would have done the same thing. Rules were broken, childish behavior is not acceptable among grown men and that kind of behavior at an NBRC outing is despicable. They both made a choice to tangle and they are responsible for their actions and behavior. No ifs or buts about it. This will set an example to everybody that there is nobody above the rules in this hobby or this organization. It really bothers me to know that the NBRC is going to vote on it again to appease his supporters, with all due respect. The way the NBRC handled this situation made me respect the organization elders (leaders) even more...All in my opinion. Thanks.
Jay
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Bluesman
Pigeon Fancier
789 posts
Sep 07, 2006
6:12 AM
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Jay. I agree 100%.I don't see any other way the EC could have voted according to the by-laws and I would expect the same action if it happened to me.My opinion. David
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Huey
21 posts
Sep 08, 2006
8:29 AM
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I agree 100% with JStar
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Heyyou
45 posts
Sep 08, 2006
10:20 AM
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Some of you are missing the real point. Anytime anyone is assaulted for any reason on any property it needs to be reported. Bad actions and bad judgement should only be rewarded with a penalty. Doesn't matter if it was at a fly or in the park. Put the blame where it belongs, get the guy punnished and move on.
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Hayseedboy
3 posts
Sep 08, 2006
2:17 PM
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Folks,
Just like in an election year it is hard for me to see which side or sides of this are the real deal. Now I am puzzled even more.
My sons and I are playing with pigeons for fun and the opportunity to spend quality time together. But, they want to compete somehow i.e. flying, showing etc.
I have refused to join any of the Homer Clubs because of all the bickering that goes on there. My kids just plain don't need to see that.
Hopefully, my 11 and 6 year olds already are learning how to loose gracefully through other avenues. We all want to win, be at the top but, no one can be every time..... sheesh.... Can this type of junk be expected all over just like the Homer guys? Is this a hobby or a business?
Discouraged Dad
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motherlodelofts
890 posts
Sep 08, 2006
2:28 PM
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Dad
This will blow over after this vote (early Oct)and then I doubt that you will hear any more about it.
What happened here was a rare event so I wouldn't get too discouraged.
Scott
Last Edited by motherlodelofts on Sep 08, 2006 2:29 PM
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Opinionated Blowhard
71 posts
Sep 08, 2006
4:42 PM
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Hello Dad
This fight had nothing to do with rollers. It was about a feud between two old hillbilly men in Tenessee who hate each other. You dont need to worry about any of this with your boys unless you are a hillbilly in Tenessee. If you are in Tenessee then watch out. Kevin
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Heyyou
46 posts
Sep 08, 2006
6:48 PM
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Winning is not the lesson to be learned, as an old coach, I believe the best lesson is to compete up to your ability believing in yourself and if you don't win, log it in the computer brain and come back the next time a little better prepared. If you give it all you got, be proud of yourself. It's the competition that should mean the most and winning or losing means nothing, you have learned something about yourself, life, and who your real friends are. I would rather have a team of hard tryers than a team of easy bad winners.
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Hayseedboy
4 posts
Sep 08, 2006
10:03 PM
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Thanks Guys!
Incidentally, I do know a couple of old hillbillies from TN. Does that count :)
Guess I just am worried about my boys..... They see so much junk already at their ages that I didn't have to deal with for years later and din't want this to be another source of garbage in their lives.
Thanks for the input. On we go :)
lr
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