hardtimekenl2
3 posts
Oct 24, 2006
4:46 PM
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i bought 6 pair of roller last winter . thay did good in spring . what i want to know is . i have 10 young birds thay were born in early spring . know i have been flying these birds for two weeks .was feeding rooster mix but the last three day i have been feeding just wheat .all i see out of them is flying in a big circle most of the time thay fly in all directions. it is just them no old birds with them.
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sundance
15 posts
Oct 24, 2006
6:48 PM
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depends on a lot of things...what family are they from? what are you feeding them ? how often do you get to fly them?
different families have different developement times. different feed can help trigger the roll. try to find a good pigeon mix, then as you learn more about your birds you can experiment with the mix like adding more peas, or less. more wheat or less, or more milo or less,... you get the idea.?
different families will react to the different grains in different ways also. some will sky out on too much wheat while others work just fine on straight wheat.
the mainlyist thang is...lol(sorry , I just love sayin that).... the main thing is , get to know your birds. talk to the person you got them from. he or she should be able to help you more than anyone else with your particular birds. wish you the best of luck with them. butch
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JMUrbon
31 posts
Oct 24, 2006
7:13 PM
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Well first of all if you raised them in early spring than you waited way to long to get them in the air. Second and most important is that rollers dont come out of the shell rolling. They have got to mature mentally and physically befor they start rolling or you wont have anything but rolldowns. Give them time but take this into consideration. You are very late at getting them out and they may never mature to their full potential now. You will also need to think of the birds safety this late in the year and lock them up if the preditors start hitting you or you will find yourself with nothing left and more than likely will not stick with the hobby. Which would be a sad situation because you would not have really given the birds a chance. Some birds come in at around 3 monthes and others like mine not til 9 monthes to a year. But the important thing is to just be patient and do whatever you have to to get them to that point. Joe Urbon
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Santandercol
365 posts
Oct 25, 2006
6:08 AM
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Hard Time,
I begin trap training the youngbirds at 4 weeks of age,then by 5 weeks old they are sitting on the kitbox roof,free to fly.Usually by 7 weeks they have taken to the air at least close around the house.Some can start to roll at 3 months,but most are only tailriding or short flips by then.Like Joe said,you definately need to get them flying at a young age to have them develop to their full potential.Good luck.
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Kelly
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belle
6 posts
Oct 27, 2006
5:00 PM
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I put my young birds in the kit box at 10 weeks old, and let them out for the first time in 2 weeks, and then most of them start to roller in 2 weeks but some take a little longer. <><
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hardtimekenl2
4 posts
Oct 28, 2006
6:43 AM
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i have been letting these young birds out to fly ever day to fly .thay fly for about 15 min. but thay just fly in a big circle and not together i have been doing this ever day for almost three weeks know.and have beenfeeding just wheat to them. are thay to old to start rolling .should i cull all and start over next sping?
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Santandercol
368 posts
Oct 28, 2006
8:01 AM
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Hard time,
I wouldn't cull them yet.Give them a chance and fly them at least till you have no room for them when the new young start coming on in the spring.Try feeding them 50/50 wheat/milo and don't overfeed them so much that they don't trap in right away after flying.Good luck with your birds.
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Kelly
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Mr.JX
20 posts
Oct 28, 2006
9:47 AM
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Try flying them in smaller groups around five at a time. Find the ones that are starting to kit and group them together. Every now and then add a non kitter.
Cut their feed to half and fly them hard three to four times a day for about a week to two. Feed them until they are full and watch them go up the next day.
Thats what I did when I had some birds that have never been flown and it worked for me. Even all the low flying birds went high.
Jim
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JMUrbon
38 posts
Oct 28, 2006
8:32 PM
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The best way that I have found to get young birds to start kitting is to box them up and take them down the road a 100 yards or so. Of course this is if they already know were they live. Also try changing to a mix feed for just a little bit til they start kitting. I wouldnt say that you need to cull them just yet but with a whole kit of them it is pretty tough to train them. Remember pigeons are creatures of habbit and if you dont break this one they are doomed. Joe Urbon
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Alohazona
199 posts
Oct 30, 2006
7:35 PM
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I tend to fly a large kit of youngbirds,mixed familys.I think that it helps them get started with their kitting.I fly about 30 young,and split that kit in half once or twice a week for assesment,to see who's doing what.I dont have a great deal of patience for stragglers or roof warmers regardless of what pair they came from.One of the foremost reasons I fly larger kits is it promotes kitting and performance.Whether your birds start rolling at 3 or 9 months,youll want to keep an eye out for quality.Fast straight flips is what you are looking for untill they mature.Larger kits will engrain the pathways for performance quicker[monkey see,monkey do].Feed them good once they have trapped,and let them take a good drink after.Aloha,Todd
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