bob
11 posts
Oct 30, 2006
10:16 AM
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Hi all i would like to know if you knowledgebal & experienced breeder,s have had good success raising bird,s in the late fall even though you would not fly them until spring. would you just be asking for extra problem,s holding them that long? thankyou for your advice.
Bob in Ontario Canada
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Santandercol
380 posts
Oct 31, 2006
5:50 AM
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Bob,
Out there where you live,if you start breeding your birds now,first off there are probably many hawks around this time of year till march or so maybe april,so that will make training youngbirds difficult.Also,when the squeakers get their pinfeathers quite often the parents stop sitting on them fulltime as the pinfeathers are uncomfortable to sit on,thus when they don't sit all through the night,when you go out into your loft in the morning instead of squeakers you'll have popsicles.
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Kelly
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bman
71 posts
Oct 31, 2006
6:23 AM
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I am in the process of remodeling the upstairs of my kennel into a breeding loft.It is lighted,heated and well insulated,I plan on starting breeding Jan 1.I have talked to Tony about lighting and temp.Another question I have is ventilation since it kinda defeats the heating.Any suggestions ? Any other suggestions or advice ?
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Ron
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Hayseedboy
11 posts
Oct 31, 2006
7:15 AM
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Don't know yet what the lights will do for the Rollers but to the Homers. It works! Kinda like Viagra to these little Horners.
I will be turning on lights in the loft starting about a week before Christmas in the morning about 3 or 4 AM. Electric timers are easy to find especially this time of the year with so many people hanging Christmas lights.
Remember not to leave the light on past sunset or they will not find their way back to the loft. I met a gent that had been raising birds for several years who told me that he turns off the lights around 8pm. Then he told me that the mortality rate wasn't great until the weather warmed up anyway. Not the sharpest knife in the drawer.
The advice I have been getting is a little like the advice you have been given in this string. Starting to early could be a major disappointment due to hawks anyway. And the fact that you will want to start training your young birds early. So again it's that 2 & 2 thing again.
Bottom line is though... if you want to start early... the lights turn them on :)
lr
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bman
72 posts
Oct 31, 2006
7:47 AM
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Kelly,
It be nice but I think the treasurer would veto it.LOL
Hoping for a simple solution,don't know about recirculating the air with the furnace,what consequences if any?
Hayseed,thanks already figured on using the timers.The first round should hit the kit box around the first of March.Will probably have a little trouble but I think the extra wing time before september out weighs that.
P.S. I have some homers I will use as fosters (waterhouse beakarts)don't race so they have earn their keep somehow.
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Ron
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Santandercol
383 posts
Oct 31, 2006
8:22 AM
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Ron,
You'd probably want to filter that recycled air somehow.
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Kelly
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siddiqir
276 posts
Oct 31, 2006
1:29 PM
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For me it is 1st week of Feb. I am in NJ, USA
Last Edited by siddiqir on Oct 31, 2006 1:29 PM
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Velo99
649 posts
Oct 31, 2006
4:43 PM
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I used lights this year. I have an aviary built on the front of my loft. The birds were usually back in when the sun went down outside. If not,I ran them in before I shut the light off around 7:00 building a few minutes a day until 8:00. I paired on New years Day. Had my first round, which was a little short,eight birds;in the air by the first of March. I think since this was the first season I used fosters I will be a little more prepared next time.
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If they don`t kit,they don`t score.
Color don`t roll and peds don`t fly.
It`s a comp thing,understand?
V99
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JMUrbon
43 posts
Nov 02, 2006
4:25 PM
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I put my pairs together on Thanksgiving and usually have young in the nest for XMAS. I run lights in my loft this time of year 24 hours a day and loose very few if any young. I know what you are thinking and by using florescent lighting the cost is very minimal and with the temps between 100 and 115 regularly from late June til September this has enabled me to get finished breeding early thus cutting down on the stress to some of my older stock birds. Joe
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J_Star
648 posts
Nov 04, 2006
5:11 PM
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State in your post what state you are in because it varies from state to state. In CA, you can breed early and keep breeding year round. Other states, on the other hand, don't have that luxury because of freezing cold winter months and preditors.
Jay
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fhtfire
613 posts
Nov 04, 2006
5:16 PM
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I live by Sacramento CA...and if I wanted to ...I could breed year around...I did it the first year I was in Rollers..just to get the numbers up. ANyway....I start breeding again about the first of Jan...and stop when I am done...some years I will breed 20young...some years 50...just depends...I will breed for myself first...then I will breed some round for friends if they need birds...or if somebody I know and like...had an overfly or something...I will offer some birds if needed...It really depends on where you live and you weather conditions....It is good to give your breeders a break...they get real stressed during the breeding season...I give my breeders some much needed relax time.
rock and ROLL
Paul
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