rollerman132
12 posts
Nov 03, 2006
8:27 AM
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Can the yo-yo work for all families or just Neibel birds?
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Will Winsome
9 posts
Nov 03, 2006
1:51 PM
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I hear the hoola hoop works on some familys. Bill
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motherlodelofts
929 posts
Nov 03, 2006
3:31 PM
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It works with stable familys but not hot/unstable familys or youngbirds.
I scratched the surface of that program a few years ago and liked it for maintace flying but never got the experiance with it for setting up for fly day , it would take a good couple of years to figure out the in's and outs of it.
Scott
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rollerman132
13 posts
Nov 03, 2006
8:05 PM
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To me it looks like he built his family from birds that responded the best to that feeding program, and not because they were pensoms. Someone once said that the birds evolve,the way we allow them to. I think that this type of feeding program would work out for someone just starting to make their family of birds, just my thought on the mater. what do you think?
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fhtfire
610 posts
Nov 03, 2006
10:43 PM
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I use the yo-yo system and I really like it...but it is mainly for maintenance.....like Scott says. The birds do perform pretty good after the two rest days and they stay in ok shape. It is an easy program to follow. I change the feeding up a little based on weather, moulting, age of the team and overall fitness. If it is real cold...I may give them a full ration of mix the fly day, 3/4 ration of mix on first rest day, and a little over half ration of wheat/milo the last rest day. The summer it may be Mix every now and then on the fly day and mostly wheat and milo on the rest days and smaller rations, Moulting I will poor the mix to them and just cut the rations a little bit...as long as they trap quick...I just want to get them through the moult fast. If they are too fat...cut the mix...to thin..add the mix and keep the rations about the same. The program works well for me and I like it to keep them in OK shape and healthy.
Preparing for comp, they get off the yo-yo system and fly them every day for about 10days-2weeks, wheat, reduced fly time based on feed, some magic in the water every now and them...get them feeling real good..then lock them down and feed like you do the yo-yo system and they come out feeling real good, frequent...just plain excited to roll.
Just try it for a Month or two and see how it works..you never know uless you try..but give it enough time...so that you can see the results.
rock and ROLL
Paul
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red_line60
5 posts
Nov 03, 2006
11:47 PM
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hey guys how dose this yo-yo thing work.. waht is this Yo-Yo?
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Yee Thao
Redline Roll-N-Deep Loft
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fhtfire
611 posts
Nov 04, 2006
5:10 PM
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The yo-yo system is Fly-rest-rest-fly-rest-rest-fly..and so on. It works real good for old bird teams and hold over teams in some families of birds. That is the fly schedule....then there is a feeding schedule that goes along with fly schedule. I will use examples of what I do with my birds. A full ration for a 20 bird kit is 2 cups or 1/2 cup for every five birds. So...on the day I fly and they land I will give my birds a full ration or 2 cups of mix when they land...then on the second day which is a rest day I will give a 3/4 ration or 1.5 cups of wheat/milo...then on the next day or second day of rest I will give them 1 cup or a half ration of wheat/milo and then fly them the next day....they usually put on a pretty good show and fly for about 45min-1hr. If my birds are flying more then an hour I will cut back the feed on the last rest day and keep the other rations the same. If the birds are feeling a little heavy I will take them off the mix on the fly day and use wheat instead...if they are getting a little light (skinny)...I will put them back on the mix....In cold weather you have to feed a little more because the birds need more feed to stay warm....during the winter on really cold days and during the moult..I will give them the mix on the fly day and the first rest day...if it is really cold..like around freezing I will keep them on the mix the whole time and give them bigger rations. I do not know how to explain when I take them off the mix and on the mix...it is just knowing your birds...the birds will tell you when they need more or less...it is just "gut" feelings. You just have to play around with the feeding and see what works for you..take lots of notes so you can see what works or what does not..trust my..you won't do it from memory..then when you have some time under your belt you don't need to write it down anymore..you just know when to change from experience...I myself really like the system...my birds react really good on they yo-yo system.....just remember that during the cold months you will have to feed more and there performance will not be as good...but I myself do not care about performance if it is really cold...the same goes for the moult...lay the rich feed to them so they get through the moult....This is just the way I do the yo-yo system...others use different feeding methods..but the fly schedule is usually the same across the board. Hope this helps
rock and ROLL
Paul
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rollerman132
14 posts
Nov 04, 2006
6:15 PM
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Thanks Paul for your input, going to try it your way this spring.
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red_line60
6 posts
Nov 05, 2006
12:19 PM
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thanks Paul,
that sound pretty hard for me, im just a newbie but ill still try it out.. it better to do it then not to, you'll ever know what going to happen if you dont try..thanks
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Yee Thao
Redline Roll-N-Deep Loft
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maxspin
56 posts
Nov 05, 2006
1:53 PM
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I use the Yo-yo system just about the same as Paul. I fly my old birds twice a week because I coach soccer during the summer. It also sets me up for our clubs on Saturday. I fly on Tues and Sat. That gives me (4) days to get them swapped over to a morning schedule for comp. My family had a reputation for high flying, and this system does a fairly good job of keeping them down to a scorable height.
I use mix on fly day and straight wheat on rest days. The only change I make working up to World Cup or the Fall fly is to put them on straight wheat for (2) weeks prier to the fly.
If your birds are prone to high flying or a little "too" stable give the yo-yo a try.
Keith
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