wishiwon2
3 posts
Nov 07, 2006
8:20 PM
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In your opinion whats the ideal age for youngsters to come into rolling. Ive seen families in which young birds show some roll around 4 months old and hitting it hard by 6 months, other families take 18 months to 2 years to develope.
Personally i dont have the patience to wait 2 years to see what i have and/or if my crosses are working how i want them to. On the other hand my birds which start to roll hard at early age, typically dont survive beyond a year, too much heat and not enough control be it physical development or mental stability. I would like to consistently have bird develope in quality rolling between 8months to year. That gives them opportunity to mature and grow, and yet gives me something to look forward to before the following years breeding season is full on.
What do you all think?
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J_Star
654 posts
Nov 08, 2006
4:52 AM
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I think you answered your own question.
Jay
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J_Star
657 posts
Nov 08, 2006
10:30 AM
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No Nick...I don't think you need a disclaimer to every statement you put on this forum. We all know each other and know very well that the statements are made based on the poster's opinion. From time to time we get the argumentative people and soon they drop out.
Putting a disclaimer after every post becomes ridicules and irritating. Don't you think?
Jay
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JMUrbon
45 posts
Nov 08, 2006
6:12 PM
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I think that Brian is rite on the money. I personally dont want to have to keep birds around for much over a year to find out IF they are going to roll or not. I dont have the time or the space. If you have a good family of birds with good control 6 monthes is just great. Joe
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katyroller
68 posts
Nov 09, 2006
6:50 PM
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Early developing birds can be exciting to watch but they don't seem to last more than a year. I am working with a new family of birds that I have been flying for about five months. I don't have any birds tearing up the skies but most are putting together several consecutive rolls. These birds kit very tight, are fairly easy to feed and fly at heights that I like. Since I have researched the family I know they have roll so I am more willing to give them some time to develope.
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motherlodelofts
933 posts
Nov 09, 2006
11:18 PM
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Yea 6 mo. my best come in from about 5-8 months , much earlier than that and they are a pain and have a very difficult time handling it , my good one's just get better with age.
The last thing I want to see is a 3 mo. old hammering it , if mine aren't showing promise by 10 mo. it isn't happening, not sure where this two years came from but I don't know anyone that would wait that long.
Scott
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Brian_Middaugh
9 posts
Nov 10, 2006
11:42 AM
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It seems most of the families I have came across came into the roller around 5 to 8 months. Now I have heard of some families coming into the roll at 1 to 2 years. Man would you loose a lot waiting on birds to come into the roll. What I mean is if they take up to 18 to 24 months to show you something its very hard on the birds and flyer. Because it could be two flying seasons before they do anything. That means they have to survive the shark attacks and over-fly's for two seasons before you can get them in a competition or get a kit started. I know around here if your flying birds for two years you have your eyes on some birds ready for the stock loft. Not looking at birds just showing you something. And if you have to fly the same birds over and over for two seasons and you loose 50% of them. What will that do to your breeding record/program? I mean if you loose choice birds because your flying them for so long what is that going to do for selecting? If you have a click pair and don't know it and loose all of their babies within the first two years what are you going to do with the pair? Are you going to know anything about the breeders themselves? if they produce the goods your looking for? its all a crap shoot!!! now if your birds came into the roll say 5 to 8 months you can get them hatched out in March. Get them in the air around the first of April. Aug to Nov you will see the fruits of your labor. At the end of the following year you might have something you might have your eye on for the stock loft. I have seen and heard of some families if they survive the first year they would be good solid birds. Because those families are pretty hot and most generally roll down. I myself wouldn't have anything that took more than 8 months old to come into the roll.
Best of luck
Brian Middaugh
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