fhtfire
638 posts
Nov 17, 2006
4:08 PM
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Man...this sucks...when everything is going good you lose birds. I lost 15 birds out of my A-team...got 5 back. THAT SUCKS!!!!! I lost all my Ruby Roller except for 2 (05-1 cock and 1 Hen....The others that returned were , 1 Campbell 05 hen and 2 Mort Emami 04 and 05 hen. I hope some more come in tomorrow...I put up my young bird team to bring them down with no luck....At least I have 18 bird in my B-team and 22 in my young bird team....Man I am pissed...it was a damn cooper that drove them up!!
rock and ROLL
Paul
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motherlodelofts
951 posts
Nov 17, 2006
4:23 PM
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Yea Paul it is a bad feeling for sure , been there, you should get a few more back.
This sport sure can get interesting and disapointing , I put away my cream to stock and trying to rebuild the team now.
At least I can't get hurt no matter what happens to the team now , good luck
Scott
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Ally Mac
114 posts
Nov 17, 2006
4:40 PM
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Sorry to hear that Paul. Not like you. Hope you get them back.
Touch wood never had an over fly yet. Some time some birds spend the night on the roof but they have always been there in the morning. A team too. Fingers crossed.
Al.
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fhtfire
639 posts
Nov 17, 2006
4:51 PM
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Well, I got one more back....He landed with my young bird team...I will keep my fingers crossed....
rock and ROLL
Paul
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Tony Chavarria
Site Publisher
822 posts
Nov 17, 2006
4:53 PM
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Hey Paul, sorry to hear you lost birds. We were just talking about stocking some of those birds weren't we? Was that dark check Emani hen one of the missing ones?
As for me, I decided a few years ago to not take as many chances with really promising birds once the preds became year-round in Bellflower. I would just stock em and see what they could produce.
Right now I am letting my kits out sporadically (every other day and choosing different times of the day) just to give them airtime through the winter so I can have something for the World Cup.
I might even reduce the time between excercise days if I any preds buzzing them regularly. I occasionally get a hawk or falcon fly through but so far it seems I have been able to make enough noise to distract them and they keep going (knock on wood).
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FLY ON! Tony Chavarria
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belle
31 posts
Nov 17, 2006
5:30 PM
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I had a cooper do that to me today, 13 bird kit they went high I couldn't even see them at times all came back down one at a time and then he came out of the trees and bam he got one and that will be the last one.
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maxspin
59 posts
Nov 17, 2006
5:52 PM
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Paul,
I had the same thing happen to me twice last Winter. Trying to get a kit up after work. Cooper scares them up, and they just will not come down. Then it gets dark. I lost most of my 2nd and 3rd rounds for the year.
My A team is locked down and my promising young birds will only fly on the weekend when there is lots of time to get over being scared up by a predator.
I thought I was going to have a problem last night. A Merlin hit them twice, and they didn't come down until late. Whewwww!!!!!
hope you get some more back.
Keith Maxwell
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George Ruiz
118 posts
Nov 17, 2006
6:11 PM
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Scott am I reading right did you say a CREAM !! or did you mean the CREAM Of The CROP LOL LOL
George
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Santandercol
411 posts
Nov 17, 2006
6:13 PM
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Paul,
It's always hard to lose birds like that.For sure.Lost 3 last week to the coop chasing them up for 3 hours and into the trees I guess some were injured.I'm keeping them all in till spring now.Damn coop was fluttering around my lofts today,scaring the shit out of everybody out there.I think it's better we all just go into preservation mode if there are hawks around.They destroy your birds in no time flat.And the really annoying part is they haven't been successful in taking a bird for lunch.I've seen 'em fly away empty.Man.Sorry 'bout that dude.
Yits,
Kelly.
Salud a las Palomas
DDT par las halcones.
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sundance
32 posts
Nov 17, 2006
6:54 PM
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Also sorry to hear of your lost birds. Man, where do all these lost birds end up ??? I find myself watching the kits of feral birds around local towns and the farms as I go back and forth to work and such. Always expecting to see one roll.Last spring I only had One holdover kit to play with and lost it much to my own blame. I should`of been more mindfull of the weatherman.
Last weekend I was flying a young kit and got hit by a cooper. The kit stayed down but a little black check got caught pretty quick. Luckily, I seen it and yelled as it grabbed the bird. He dropped it without any harm to it.Thing I noticed was the bird it hit was one of the few without any paint on it. I`ve been flying when I get a chance to pull all the birds who show some roll. If they are developing into the roll , then they go in the loft till spring, if no roll I will keep flying till I see progress. Anyways, I thought this was interesting cause I seen in anouther post or e-mail a while back about the hawks not liking birds with colored paint on them...Hmmm....
Anybody else got any similar findings or was this just a fluke that he hit the non-painted bird???
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sac_spinners
6 posts
Nov 17, 2006
7:10 PM
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Sorry to hear that paul I went to through the same things last year just like you are doing right now to the coopers, by either getting scared off or getting hit on everyday but i had more luck this year i haven't lost one yet, there is too many wild pigeon around where i live at now so they go for those birds, im hoping i don't lose none through out the season and good luck paul on your birds returning
spin to win
chor
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belle
34 posts
Nov 17, 2006
7:17 PM
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watching the kits of feral birds around local towns, I do that I saw one roll one day it was a nice roll, I see a lot of them with bands.
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katyroller
86 posts
Nov 17, 2006
7:18 PM
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Paul, Sorry to hear about your luck. Hopefully more birds will be back tomorrow. I also had a scare with my birds this morning. Had a kit of 23 up fooling around and a large flock of tweetie birds flew by. Next thing I knew they were in the middle of the flock and heading west with them until they were out of sight. After about 20 mins. I started to get that sick to the gut feeling when I spotted them off to the north about 3 or 4 miles out. They didn't seem to be in a hurry to get home. I guess Morts' family has some homing instinct.
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JMUrbon
48 posts
Nov 17, 2006
7:32 PM
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MAN PAUL, What a horrible feeling. I feel for you. I truly hope that you get more of them back. I know you have worked hard to build the team up to were they are and it just rips your heart out to see them go to the roller gods that way.Keep your hopes up and in the unlikely event that no more return just remember this. You raised them once,if the blood is there you should be able to do it again. Joe
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nicksiders
849 posts
Nov 17, 2006
7:34 PM
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Not good, Paul. You didn't loose that big black chicken did ya?
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Snicker Rollers
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fhtfire
640 posts
Nov 17, 2006
8:08 PM
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Nick....I still have the super chicken....I had bumped him down to the B-team...to help the B-team come along...He still rolling like crazy..LOL!! He is still an A-team bird....He was just on special assignment with the B-team....He will be back in the A-team for sure..
Joe...the blood is still there...I have the B-team..that are all 06 birds but 2....and I have 18 in that bunch..and they are starting to show there stuff....the young bird team has 3 or 4 that are ready for a promotion...and I have 22 in there...so I am still ok...it just sucks losing the birds that were flying good together....I am glad that I got my 04 hen back in my A-team..she is a damn good bird. So I have 46 birds total...so I am still in the game..LOL!!
The shitty thing is that the hawk just split the kit and kept going..did not even go after one bird...he was on a mission headed South....Anyway...I will keep you all updated...see what comes in...in the morning....I am putting the young bird team up...first thing and then the B-team...so I hope they make it back...
Thanks for the comments...it keeps me from crying..LOL!!
God...I hate the twisted in the gut feeling....1 step forward and two steps back...
rock and ROLL
Paul
Scott C.....thanks for the pep talk on the phone!!!
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tapp
140 posts
Nov 17, 2006
8:26 PM
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Paul, I hope when you wake up there all back. Thats got to be the worst feeling. Take care, and let us know as soon as they return!!! Tapp
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Tapp
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Double D
281 posts
Nov 17, 2006
9:43 PM
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I could hear it in your voice when we talked dude, man that really stinks! Hopefully they'll all make it back tomorrow, especially that blue check hen. Good luck my friend and I'll be praying for you.
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Darin Olson
Checkerboard Lofts
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RB&R
80 posts
Nov 18, 2006
8:38 AM
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hey, sorry to hear that...i just lost my 18 birds in the fog after two seago chased them up. SHIT......this suck...it take me 2 years to bring up this kind of good rollers. I'm out of this hobby.
Andrew
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dave
202 posts
Nov 18, 2006
9:32 AM
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RB&R, If you need birds I got some I can give you.
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fhtfire
646 posts
Nov 18, 2006
2:03 PM
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Well, I got 2 more back today...to make the total of 8 returned...hope they keep coming.
rock and ROLL
Paul
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Ballrollers
485 posts
Nov 18, 2006
2:31 PM
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I'll keep my fingers crossed for you, Paul. That's really a bummer. I had an entire kit straggle in over a week, last year, after a similar experience. I never expected to see them. Just keep flying other kits and don't lose hope!
YITS,
Cliff
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Velo99
655 posts
Nov 18, 2006
4:15 PM
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Paul
Sorry to hear about your O.F. bro. If you need anything...
BTW the Superchicken lives!!!!!!
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If they don`t kit,they don`t score.
Color don`t roll and peds don`t fly.
It`s a comp thing,understand?
V99
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RB&R
82 posts
Nov 19, 2006
7:48 AM
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Thank you Dave, I don't think anyone in here would want to offer me some birds.
Andrew
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Bluesman
Pigeon Fancier
844 posts
Nov 19, 2006
8:09 AM
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Paul.I hope by now a lot more of your birds have returned.Hard pill to swallow thats for sure.David
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J_Star
671 posts
Nov 19, 2006
5:52 PM
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I feel your pain my friend. Been there done that. Although, it was not a cooper that caused the overfly rather the jet stream in the sky. I hope you get them all back. It is truely a hard pill to swallow. Take care of that SOB.
Jay
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parlorfancier916
162 posts
Nov 19, 2006
9:24 PM
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talk about it, my hawk isn't driving anything away now a days, he seems to be attracting more hawks in my area.. I think I might release him at clear lake or so, well you guys I know for sure fly sky shark meals before you realease you possible soon to be breeders.
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fhtfire
671 posts
Nov 27, 2006
6:56 PM
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Got one more back today.....but it did not return to my loft...a guy called me from Sacramento and said that he had one of my birds. The bird trapped with a team of his high flyers...He read me the band number and sure enough it was a little Blue check that was in my A-team. That guys house is 24 miles away. He said it was healthy...just real hungry...it is times like these that I am glad that I put the custom address bands on my birds. Tony...this is the little blue check that I sent you the photo of...Bill crider is picking the bird up for me tomorrow. I am excited!!
rock and ROLL
Paul
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nicksiders
867 posts
Nov 27, 2006
7:01 PM
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Is it that little tame blue check?
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Snicker Rollers
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smk
14 posts
Nov 27, 2006
7:41 PM
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Paul sorry for your loss i lost 3 this weekend to coopers right before my eyes damn redtails were stealing them from the cooper so she she had to come back for more looks like im finished till spring
smk
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fhtfire
672 posts
Nov 27, 2006
9:31 PM
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Nick,
That little hen you are talking about is still MIA...man I miss that little hen..she would fly across the yard and land on me and eat from my hand. She rolled like crazy too.
Paul
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bob
19 posts
Nov 29, 2006
5:35 AM
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Hi Guys i realize that a lot of you live where you are not allowed to discharge firearms. i am fortunate to be able to , i do not fly unless i have time to watch, & i sit with my 22 cal. on my knee & any sign of a BOP gets a shot in their direction. This works every time for me in fact for the day. good luck Bob in ontario
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fhtfire
693 posts
Dec 07, 2006
8:43 PM
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Well,
Got a phone call today...someone found another lost bird....but the bird was so weak that it did not make it. This lady was a vet and tried everything...it could not even stand up....She was so sad....I am glad that I invested in the address bands...anyway..this bird was 32 miles away in Sacramento. They are dropping the bird off to me tomorrow.
rock and ROLL
Paul
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Outlaw Vizsla
21 posts
Dec 08, 2006
10:54 AM
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Paul,
sorry to hear that...just ordered some more personalized bands for myself. Glad you told me about those when I first got started.
Matt
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