Tony Chavarria
Site Publisher
924 posts
Dec 16, 2006
9:46 AM
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Has anyone here ever been into remote control type hobbies and tried a Radio Controlled Helicopter or Airplane to keep the skies clear over the loft?
If so how did it work out? Would protecting your stock in the air like that violate a predators air space?
Kinda like an offensive/defensive Ultra Light Vehicle for pigeons! LOL
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FLY ON! Tony Chavarria
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Santandercol
497 posts
Dec 16, 2006
9:53 AM
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Tony,
YEAH!!Get some of them on your Roller Products page!
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Kelly
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Fr.mike
211 posts
Dec 16, 2006
10:51 AM
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Tony--??-Are you sure somebody didn't spray you with some of that furniture polish? He he ha ha Lol !
Mike
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nicksiders
942 posts
Dec 16, 2006
10:53 AM
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Well, I have been bragging how I haven't had any hawks overhead and now I have had two consequetive fly days of hawk attacts(coopers)lost one bird to the hawks and three others removed themselves from the area. Maybe an obnoxious sounding hilocopter can help in keeping the hungery bastards away. There are just too many of them anymore and they are protected federally, so there probably will be even more of them in the future.
Nick
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Snicker Rollers
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Outlaw Vizsla
22 posts
Dec 16, 2006
11:18 AM
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I would strongly caution anyone from using a radio control device to deter hawk attacks. Not only is it illegal and will not work, but you could potentially be placing other or yourself in harm.
I've been building and flying radio control planes for the past 21 years. I recently (within the last 5 years) started flying radio control helis as well. While this is a great hobby it requires years of practice to become proficient in your skills as a pilot. When I began flying helis I flew 3-4 days a week and put in probably two hours a simulator time per night. While it is a very fun, EXPENSIVE!! and rewarding hobby it can be extremely dangerous if you don't know what your doing.
The blades on an R/C heli spin anywhere from 1500-2200 rpms and are constructed of wood and/or Carbon. So a blade strike to your arm or leg could potentially sever the limb. Fortunately in our hobby there has only been one death that I know of related to a blade strike to the neck. This is why all radio controlled planes or helis should only be flown at designated fields, with proper licensing and insurance from AMA (Academe of Model Aeronautics).
I'll post pics later of my helis and planes but I have to run and drop a computer off to a fried that I was fixing.
Cliff Notes:
Flying Radio Control Helis or Planes to deter hawk attacks won't work.
You could possibly injure your self or others doing it.
Matt
Last Edited by on Dec 16, 2006 11:21 AM
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belle
57 posts
Dec 16, 2006
12:28 PM
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I have a rc airplane that is for beginners and I don't have insurance from the AMA but I also don't have the big expensive stuff that I think your talking about. It is not illegal fly it around the house(if your yard is as big as mine) but I'm sure it is illegal to chase the hawks with it.
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Missouri-Flyer
26 posts
Dec 16, 2006
1:30 PM
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As far as I know of, there are no laws containing to (chasing) birds of prey with anything. Now if it hit and killed one, then that is a different story. jerry
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Tony Chavarria
Site Publisher
931 posts
Dec 16, 2006
3:01 PM
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So what if you just want to fly a radio controlled helicopter or airplane around your house and the noise and its presence in the airspace keeps BOP away?
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FLY ON! Tony Chavarria
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Missouri-Flyer
27 posts
Dec 16, 2006
3:34 PM
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Tony, that is a question that I could get an answer to from one of our conservation officers in the county. His opinion would be his and may not be the same everywhere. Jerry
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Tony Chavarria
Site Publisher
934 posts
Dec 16, 2006
4:19 PM
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Hey Jerry, sounds good to me. But don't say it like this, "can a guy use a remote control helicopter to scare predators away"?
Better might be, "if a guy is flying his remote control helicopter over his private property and adjacent property and a BOP avoids going near it, would this be against any rules or regulations"?
What do you think?
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FLY ON! Tony Chavarria
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Missouri-Flyer
28 posts
Dec 16, 2006
5:06 PM
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LMAO... Yea, this guy is a family friend and would just laugh if I told him the reason... He will give me a legal explanation tho, then laugh. Jerry
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nicksiders
946 posts
Dec 16, 2006
5:24 PM
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What Matt is saying makes sence and sence he is involved in the sport he is probably right on.
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Snicker Rollers
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Santandercol
500 posts
Dec 16, 2006
5:32 PM
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Think I'll just wait for the redwinged blackbirds to be nesting in the ol' hedge.
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Outlaw Vizsla
23 posts
Dec 16, 2006
7:31 PM
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Belle:
Two things...first, It doesnt matter if you have big expensive stuff you go into radio lock out and put that plane through a window of a house or a car and you'll be singing a different song. AMA protects all of its flyers with insurance for just such an occasion, flying w/o it is like driving w/o insurance just plain stupid.
Second, I guess I shouldnt have used the term "illegal" when I refered to flying around your house. first you need to check into your zoning regulations, second you need to talk with AMA to make sure that you are not within a defined(and this is set by AMA i'm not to sure what it is but I believe its 20 miles) radius of a local flying field or local airport. Third you need to register with AMA as an offically sanctioned flying field so that they will cover you incase of an accident or mishap. fourth since you are not a member of AMA you need to become one so that you are covered again incase of an accident or mishap. After all of this is complete(and i'm sure Im leaving some stuff out) Go right ahead and fly.
Matt
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Outlaw Vizsla
24 posts
Dec 16, 2006
7:42 PM
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"As far as I know of, there are no laws containing to (chasing) birds of prey with anything. Now if it hit and killed one, then that is a different story. "
DNR sees it as harasing wildlife and if they really want to make a point they will. And yes your right if you hit a bird of prey intentionally with a heli or plane thats a no-no.
"So what if you just want to fly a radio controlled helicopter or airplane around your house and the noise and its presence in the airspace keeps BOP away? "
Tony see my post to Belle...that pretty much answers it. Not everyone realizes that you just cant walk out in your backyard and start flying. If your within range of a local flying field and you turn your radio on and someone is on your frequency that person will crash and you will be held liaable. I've seen it happen way to many times.
""if a guy is flying his remote control helicopter over his private property and adjacent property and a BOP avoids going near it, would this be against any rules or regulations"?"
I'll ask the DNR Wildlife guys I work with and see what they say. But again if they want to make a point they will.
Guys...
I'm really not trying to be an @$$ but this exact thing is why the R/C Heli community gets a bad rap. These things are already dangerous enough and in the wrong hands can quickly become out of control and hurt someone or some ones property.
Matt
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Outlaw Vizsla
25 posts
Dec 16, 2006
7:46 PM
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here's some pics of my helis and me flying (the pic of the plane...its not my plane but its me flying)
Matt
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Santandercol
502 posts
Dec 16, 2006
8:47 PM
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Cool pics but looks like it's pretty easy to screw up!!
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Kelly
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Outlaw Vizsla
28 posts
Dec 16, 2006
9:22 PM
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Kelly,
yes its very easy to screw up. every time you change orientations your control inputs change.
tail in hover left input we move the heli to the left. nose in left now moves us right. Now flip it inverted and it changes again. depending on if your tail in or nose in.
With a R/C Plane you basicly have two flight modes upright and inverted. With a Heli you have 4 upright forward, upright backwards, inverted forwards and inverted backwards. Again depending on the mode your flying in your inputs change.
Trust me theres always something new to learn.
Matt
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