STARFIRE
187 posts
Dec 21, 2006
4:43 PM
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I wish I had these in my loft too.Wouldn't matter to me if they would spin or not.
STARFIRE
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smokey
56 posts
Dec 21, 2006
5:09 PM
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ill take some to.
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knaylor
372 posts
Dec 21, 2006
5:21 PM
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I had a pair just like them when I first started. Was told they would spin, well heck the offspring didnt even like flying let alone spin!!! Got rid of them fast!!! Joe U., remember them???? LOL
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Hector Coya
66 posts
Dec 21, 2006
6:01 PM
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Hector Coya
67 posts
Dec 21, 2006
6:01 PM
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Hector Coya
68 posts
Dec 21, 2006
6:02 PM
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Hector Coya
69 posts
Dec 21, 2006
6:03 PM
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STARFIRE
189 posts
Dec 21, 2006
6:31 PM
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Hey Hector:
I had a couple of Red check crests like that.They are gone now,but I have a beautiful Yellow check now.I can put a crest on anything in my loft if I want.I have a few Almonds.I'll post them for you to see.
STARFIRE
Last Edited by on Dec 21, 2006 6:32 PM
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JMUrbon
148 posts
Dec 21, 2006
7:26 PM
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You bet I do Kevin. Straight up culls. But that is usually what you get when you try to focus on color instead of roll. Joe
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motherlodelofts
1166 posts
Dec 21, 2006
7:49 PM
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I have no doubt you would Stan.
Hector that mutt with the helmet has an extreamly weak back.
Scott
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MCCORMICKLOFTS
945 posts
Dec 21, 2006
9:00 PM
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Hector, that bronze check and blue check are nice looking birds. You don't see too many blue checks showing that much bronze in the shields. A bird like that bronze kite is ideal for almond matings.
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Hector Coya
70 posts
Dec 21, 2006
9:04 PM
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Wow Scott you can tell by a picture,maybe it helps,it rolls its ass off.
Maybe its couse it was ready to lay an egg?
Hector C
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nicksiders
1001 posts
Dec 21, 2006
9:10 PM
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Hector,
That second bird looks like the "bronze kite" that I have that I thought was mosiac............bronze kite, who knew?
Wierd ain't it?
Nick
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Snicker Rollers
Last Edited by on Dec 21, 2006 9:11 PM
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motherlodelofts
1169 posts
Dec 21, 2006
9:20 PM
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Very weak back Hector ,most probably bird won't hold up for long if it rolls , it will probably be a bumper.
By the way, I like that dark checker , and not because it's a dark checker.
Scott
Last Edited by on Dec 21, 2006 9:35 PM
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3757
97 posts
Dec 22, 2006
6:09 AM
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Hector - What family of birds did you breed the crest out from?
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GREED FOR SPEED LOFT
152 posts
Dec 22, 2006
7:23 AM
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Hector,
intersting birds, the dark checker is a very nice looking bird, the R/R crest hen tho i can not say that it has weak back because the secondaries feathers are coming up a bit in the photo to give it the illusion of that..
R-LUNA
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STARFIRE
192 posts
Dec 22, 2006
11:01 AM
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Hi Hector:
Don't believe anything that Scott says about your birds
If he Thinks that he can look at a Picture and tell you whether its Weak in the back and it might be a bumper,Shows he's got more B.S.Than he says I have.I didn't know Pensom was still alive.I can't tell you anything about a bird.unless I see it in the air or in my hand,after I've seen it in the air.And Iv'e kept bIrds for 55 yrs,He's a funny guy.LOL
STARFIRE
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classicpony
29 posts
Dec 22, 2006
11:47 AM
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Hector,
They lOOk great! I wish all mine looked as good.
Jim
"The Bird House"
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motherlodelofts
1178 posts
Dec 22, 2006
1:17 PM
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Pretty basic stuff Stan, but your right, I would advise that no one pay any attention to it.
Scott
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big al
235 posts
Dec 22, 2006
4:03 PM
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Hey Hector,
The dark check is cool looking.
Has it been in the air?
How does it perform?
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See you in the roll!
Big Al
"High Plains Spinner Loft"
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JMHD
35 posts
Dec 23, 2006
6:01 AM
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This young bird Blue grizzle cock uot of my 136 Houghton Line. John M.(HDRC)So,Cal.
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Hector Coya
73 posts
Dec 23, 2006
8:13 AM
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The drk chck was a good roller,i stocked him 2 months ago cause of the hawks,ill fly him again in april.
The crest i got from 4 different people ,one of which is from a verry reputable breeder, i know where bred out of pure rollers,one guy has played around with the crest and i know he put something in it but they roll verry good,
i never claim my crest are pure BR i do claim they roll extremly well and on the deep side.
I heve my crest in my front loft along with other odd and end birds like 1 andalusian that produses verry nice roll. just to play around,my Bob Scott stuff is in my back loft i dont mix them usually.ive had my Bob Scott stuff since 1982 they are my best and ive never changed families since,
i keep my project loft in the front becouse ive been ripped off 4 times and they always go to the front loft.
Hector C
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knaylor
376 posts
Dec 23, 2006
9:51 AM
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Hector this is the first you have admitted they are crossed. You need to reread you first posts about your crests. I give you respect for admitting the truth!!
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MILO
70 posts
Dec 23, 2006
10:20 AM
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Stan.
You don't seem like the same guy I spoke with a few years ago...We even corresponded by e-mail. If I recall correctly, you were quite nice. In the 55 years you raised rollers, do you remember the night you got into bed and woke up an arrogant jerk? You don't seem as nice as the guy I talked to. Your comments on these threads are getting tiresome. I am ok with you posting pics of your "beautiful" birds, by try not to talk so much, I'm running out of Tylenol.
c
Last Edited by on Dec 23, 2006 10:22 AM
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tapp
145 posts
Dec 23, 2006
10:58 AM
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Starfire. I sent scott a pic of my best hen. He E-mailed me back and said it had a bad back. I told him nothing else about the bird. Well it was a bumper! But,it came out of it. I bread it to my best 10ft fast Henderson cock. I was flying the young in the fall fly. In nov. a very knowledgeable roller Man been in pigeons since 8 yrs. old. flew rollers for years and years. Mainly John Weims birds and Rick Mee birds direct from them and also hung with Monty when he was alive. He handled all 11 kit birds from my fall fly kit. And when he was done he told me the 4 I was flying out of that hen, without knowing they were out of that hen, had bad backs. And I hadn't said one word to as what Scott had said months earlier. Goes to show Scott is not full of SHIT. Some have the wisdom and eye to back up their statements. So, if I was serious about flying quality rollers I would do more listening and less talking. Kim Tappenden
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Hector Coya
74 posts
Dec 23, 2006
11:20 AM
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K nayler,hows it going,
You need to reread my last post, I said out of the 4 diferent people i got my crest one was questionable,i guarantee the othe 3 had pure rollers that, is not admiting all my crest are crossed only from one guy that i got a cock from and that bird produces very fast rollers.
the other crest i know they didnt do anything to get the crest,one guy had the pair together for 4 years ond then got 2 in one round,without any crest in his loft.
To me they are my fun project and dont realy cear what anyone says ,if you had your family since 1982 they become predictable so with my ptoject i get the exitment of wondering how they are going to roll.
Hector C
Last Edited by on Dec 23, 2006 11:21 AM
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nicksiders
1010 posts
Dec 23, 2006
11:40 AM
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Scott Campbell does not lie..............period. End of story. You might not always agree with his opinions, but he does not lie.
Nick
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Snicker Rollers
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knaylor
377 posts
Dec 23, 2006
2:30 PM
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Hector, on the two birds that I have seen you post. One had a peak and one was a crest. Now Merry Christmas to you and your family. Enjoy your birds, To me they are crossed and not pure rollers but if you say they are then they are.
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knaylor
378 posts
Dec 23, 2006
2:31 PM
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Guys, you are wrong about Scott!!!! He is full of crap!!!! But he does know a little about the birds and a great guy!! LMAO
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STARFIRE
210 posts
Dec 23, 2006
5:03 PM
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Hey Guys:
Scott made up a completly fabricated story about me.Thats how I know he's full of crap.He's probably not a bad guy after he stops kicking his dogs.LOL Other than that I wish him and everybody a good holiday season and great new year.
STARFIRE
Last Edited by on Dec 23, 2006 6:22 PM
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motherlodelofts
1194 posts
Dec 23, 2006
5:19 PM
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Stan you will never catch me fabricating anything, I was passed on what was told to me , it is obvious that the story was correct by the obvious crosses in many of your birds , plus there was no reason to doubt it in the first place, Stan you might fool some, but not many.
Holiday ? it's Christmas buddy, and I wish you and your family the best !!!!!
Scott
Last Edited by on Dec 23, 2006 5:28 PM
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luis
50 posts
Dec 23, 2006
5:32 PM
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Thank GOD tis' the season to be jolly.Hate to see when we really get nasty!!
Come on kiss & make up.
Last Edited by on Dec 23, 2006 5:34 PM
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STARFIRE
211 posts
Dec 23, 2006
7:54 PM
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Hey Milo:
======MORE BULLSHIT.====
STARFIRE
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Santandercol
549 posts
Dec 23, 2006
8:29 PM
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Will you guys chill out ?? ever?Don't ya'all think there should be some ignoring going on here.DangThis a site to help each other out not shoot each other inn the knackers.
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Kelly
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MILO
75 posts
Dec 23, 2006
9:24 PM
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Stan.
I'll save my ferocious response for you after the holiday. If you think I'll take your abuse lightly, you got another thing coming old man.
c
Last Edited by on Dec 23, 2006 9:25 PM
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Santandercol
552 posts
Dec 23, 2006
9:31 PM
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Just got a great idea.Why don't you fine fellows exchange e=mail addresses and take it there?
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Kelly
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knaylor
380 posts
Dec 24, 2006
12:22 AM
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Kelly, if everything went private then Tony's site would die off and he would be broke!!!
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Santandercol
555 posts
Dec 24, 2006
7:07 AM
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Kev,
I see your point but the shots are kinda personal don't you think?Only my opinion but when they wanna get down and dirty there is another place for that sh-t.
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Kelly
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motherlodelofts
1196 posts
Dec 24, 2006
8:10 AM
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Actualy Kelly I think that there has been much that can be learned from this stuff , look at what has been going on, first you get a slough of mutts posted with a bunch of silly claims , of which are no more a Birmingham Roller than my dumb duck is , and if my duck rolled, qaulity or lack of would probably at least be equel.
Then you get many birds posted that represent the Birmingham Roller , many of which has at least the potential to roll with qaulity and the mental strength to hold up to it.
I really have not seen any personal attacks here,I have only seen cow turd paddys kicked over to expose that it's bullshit through and through , some just want others to think that the cow turd paddy is a chocolate cake.
But it is Cristmas eve and it's time to put this stuff to rest. Merry Chrismas all !!!
Scott
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knaylor
381 posts
Dec 24, 2006
9:24 AM
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Kelly, I agree. I have only seen a few personal attacks and they are by the ones that are crying that they are being attacked. Go figure???
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Santandercol
557 posts
Dec 24, 2006
12:43 PM
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OK guys,I'm gone to the loft with my camera!!!Just wish this storm outside would let up.Is it rum 30 yet??
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Kelly
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