JMUrbon
152 posts
Dec 21, 2006
7:58 PM
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I get a ton of these and I call them lavenders or ash reds. Joe Urbon
This was an awsome bird in the air and he did it for 3 years before I finally pulled him.
This is his grandfather.
And this is his mother. Three generations all showing differnt appearances of ash red Im told.
Last Edited by on Dec 21, 2006 8:14 PM
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MCCORMICKLOFTS
942 posts
Dec 21, 2006
8:45 PM
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They are all ash red. The top bird appears to be spread ash red carrying blue as is his grandfather below him, they just look a wee bit different. I'm betting the first bird's father was a black or blue check. The mating with the hen at the bottom, all cocks from that pairing will be ash red if on a blue based cock. Based on the depth of red in his neck there is a strong chance he is not spread but expressing a lot of sooty and dirty which sometimes gives birds like him a slight look of being spread. Many guys call a bird like that one a "dun".
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JMUrbon
154 posts
Dec 21, 2006
8:53 PM
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Thanks Brian. Actually his father is a rec red self. And yes alot of my birds carry the sooty factor. Joe
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nicksiders
1002 posts
Dec 21, 2006
9:15 PM
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I think all of Joe's birds are black underneath if they ain't black on top(LOL)
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birdman
266 posts
Dec 21, 2006
9:21 PM
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That bird on the bottom looks yellow on my computer screen.
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JMUrbon
158 posts
Dec 22, 2006
3:48 PM
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Shes ash red, Thats her father above her and her mother was a lavender self. looked just like the father but no ticking. That hen to this day is still one of the best I have seen in the air. I have seen better spin but none near as consistant. She was plain flawless. Joe
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Opinionated Blowhard
84 posts
Dec 22, 2006
4:26 PM
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The top bird on my monitor is an ash-red check self ticked black cock that looks darker because hes carrying lots of bronze and maybe one gene for reccessive red. The next bird is an ash-red spread lavender cock ticked black. The next is a pure ash-red spread lavender with no black. Either a hen or a cock.
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JMUrbon
160 posts
Dec 22, 2006
4:29 PM
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You hit the nail rite on the head accept I dont get any bronze rather alot of RR. Joe
Last Edited by on Dec 22, 2006 4:30 PM
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MCCORMICKLOFTS
960 posts
Dec 22, 2006
5:14 PM
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Joe, with the amount of RR that you breed, if you were to get more blue checks from them you would probably see some bronzing showing up in them, especially in the primaries and secondaries. Bronze seems to be one of the components of recessive red.
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JMUrbon
162 posts
Dec 22, 2006
7:05 PM
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Brian I am sure you are rite on that because Dave Henderson and I have basically the same birds except he get alot more blue checks and he does get alot of bronzing. Joe
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