Missouri-Flyer
77 posts
Jan 01, 2007
8:59 AM
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Happy New Years Day Everyone!
I have a question that I wanted to see what you thought. In my yb kit of 06 birds, I have a grizzle that is super deep, flys great, but stays out away from the kit maybe 20 feet at all times. After he rolls, he does return, but to the same spot, away from the kit, always on the left side. I have 4 full brothers/sisters to this birds and they dont do it. My question is how long should i give this bird before he is gone? records show he was born july 06. He didnt do this until he became a deep spinner, but has done it now for 3 weeks. Thanks, Jerry
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Eat, sleep, Cowboys, Pigeons... The facts of life
Last Edited by on Jan 01, 2007 9:01 AM
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nicksiders
1124 posts
Jan 01, 2007
9:10 AM
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Jerry,
Have you tried caging the kit up and taking them about 1/8 mile fron the loft and releasing them. Because the surroundings are new to the kit they will fly very close together trying to seek out thier home. This may bring him in close with the kit. Do this a couple of times. Then fly them from thier normal location and see if you haven't triggered the kitting impulse in the bird. If it has not worked and he continues the same behavior I would consider removing him and move on.
I have done this with some problem kitters with pretty good success. Not a 100% though.
Good luck
Nick
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Snicker Rollers
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Bluesman
Pigeon Fancier
938 posts
Jan 01, 2007
9:13 AM
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Jerry.I used to have a lot of patience with this type of roller.Not anymore.I have only seen a couple that ever overcome it with age.I have plenty of other rollers now so i just cull this type rather than take up my time.Just what I do. David
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Missouri-Flyer
78 posts
Jan 01, 2007
9:23 AM
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thanks guys. I woke up with the intention of flying them this morning, and if he didnt improve, he was gone. Well, he was the same, so I thought I would give "him" the benifit of the doubt, and see if anyone might have a suggestion before he gets the axe. Jerry
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Eat, sleep, Cowboys, Pigeons... The facts of life
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motherlodelofts
1253 posts
Jan 01, 2007
9:46 AM
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No don't cull that bird yet !!!!!!!!!!
Jerry , fly those type of birds in your secondary kits, they can go either way , it is hanging off of the kit to avoid the stimulation to roll.
Such birds can go either way, I keep them until they truely piss me off, but I always give them time, keep in mind that the best of your birds will also have the least problems.
Scott
Last Edited by on Jan 01, 2007 9:47 AM
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fhtfire
756 posts
Jan 01, 2007
10:00 AM
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I agree with Scott...have more patience with the young birds...they go though many stages of development and may grow out of it. Drop it down to a lower team....that is not as active...and see what happens...
I have one doing the same thing and it is getting on my nerves....but its sister did the same thing and is one of my best....and I damn near culled its sister....but there will be a time that I need perch space or it just plain pisses me off...then off with its head!..
rock and ROLL
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sac_spinners
45 posts
Jan 01, 2007
10:10 AM
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I would also wait for the bird to settle in too, alot of my birds if they come in the roll all the suddenly they seem to have kitting problems at first, but after flying them a while they get use to the deep rolls and then just starts to kit again, and then thats when they know how to control the rolls and how to kit with it, and not rolling too frequently
spin to win
chor
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Bluesman
Pigeon Fancier
939 posts
Jan 01, 2007
10:14 AM
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Jerry.What I have found with this type of roller is that as soon as it learns how to resist the roll it will become Stiff.It may start to kit but what good is a stiff.The end result is the same.I think you said its bro's and sisters don't do it.The bird has a fault and will pass it on.Keep it for another few months and watch how many others in the kit lead off to be with it.They are just trouble makers in my opinion.LOL. David
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Missouri-Flyer
79 posts
Jan 01, 2007
11:49 AM
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thanks guys,
I have a smaller "6 birds" kit that was leftovers that I placed him in with. I will start flying him tomorrow with them and see what he does. I will give him a short time, or he's done. Jerry
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Eat, sleep, Cowboys, Pigeons... The facts of life
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MCCORMICKLOFTS
1005 posts
Jan 01, 2007
5:42 PM
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Just toss him into a younger, less scrutinized kit and leave him alone. This way it doesn't matter what he does. Somewhere down the road if he doesn't improve, you know what to do. If he does, guess you got yourself another bird that can truck on back to the main kit.
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J_Star
730 posts
Jan 01, 2007
6:30 PM
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I agree with Scott, Paul and Brian. Just be paitant with himin the B-team kit a little while and will correct his behavior shortly.
Jay
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