classicpony
58 posts
Jan 04, 2007
9:38 AM
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Why would MOM do this? Hatch one break the other then leave the nest for both to die??
All it does is make me mad at her for doing such a thing.
Jim
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Snowmansrollers
11 posts
Jan 04, 2007
9:43 AM
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Jim, this has also happend to me several times. I thought the bird were just bad parents, but the reason why the other egg broke was probably when they sat on them and since there is no nesting material(straw,hay, pine needles, etc.) the fragile, ready to hatch egg broke. I leaned this the hard way. I now put straw in the nest to prevent breakage and also keeps the eggs alittle warmer.
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motherlodelofts
1275 posts
Jan 04, 2007
9:44 AM
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Jim, anything could have happened, if you have an open loft it could have easily been from fighting another bird , which is what easily happens under these circumstances
Pigeons won't purposly break eggs ,at least I have never seen or heard of it happening.
Scott
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Santandercol
609 posts
Jan 04, 2007
4:32 PM
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That's what I found about having an open loft last year.You have to really watch out no other cocks get into the wrong nestbox and fight up till 12 days of age or so.I wouldn't be too quick to blame the poor ol' hen there Jim.
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Kelly
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classicpony
59 posts
Jan 04, 2007
5:43 PM
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Thanks again for the info. I'm still learning, sometimes the hard way. I will have to get some nesting materal. I do have some woodchips here. Is that anygood?? Or do you recomend straw??
Jim
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luis
101 posts
Jan 04, 2007
6:00 PM
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Jim have you tried the pads they sell at JEDDS,nice and soft and when they get dirty you flip them over and good as new!!easy pickins.
Last Edited by on Jan 04, 2007 6:00 PM
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bman
158 posts
Jan 04, 2007
6:04 PM
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Jim,
I like to put a 1/2 inch of play sand in first then nesting material.Pine needles,straw whatever you got is better than nothing.Hope this helps.
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Ron
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Major-ret
43 posts
Jan 04, 2007
7:43 PM
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I (and the breeders) really like pine needles. I'll break-up the longer ones and put in the bowels and then pile some in one corner of the loft and they finish the nest, making it nice and soft. Easy to clean out mid way through while the squabs are in the nest. steve
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Santandercol
613 posts
Jan 04, 2007
8:27 PM
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Yeah a little bit a sand and some pine needles.Wood chips are good too.Don't use straw its hollow and mould sits inside it when it gets wet not good.
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Kelly
Last Edited by on Jan 04, 2007 8:28 PM
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rust never sleeps
91 posts
Jan 04, 2007
8:34 PM
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Classicpony! When using paper nest bowls try "playground' sand, lay a cover of 1" deep.I buy a 25 lbs.bag at home depot. Also try pine needles that mite work, also the hen could be the her first time with her babys chicks.The 2nd time your hen will get it right. hope this infro helps you!
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DougGowanda
5 posts
Jan 07, 2007
3:29 AM
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Handfull of sand followed by a small handfull of cedar wood shavings, sold in most pet stores. Great for keeping all kinds of bugs out. I got this tip from Ron Kumro, who has been doing it for years. Good luck on another breeding season.
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Doug Snyder
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C.J.
868 posts
Jan 07, 2007
6:01 AM
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Or maybe mom felt pressured into having squabs by dad. Then turned her hatred and recentment towards the children not realising the consequencs of her actions until it was ro late.. lol Sorry just had to
C.J.
Last Edited by on Jan 07, 2007 6:02 AM
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classicpony
61 posts
Jan 07, 2007
5:38 PM
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I added cedar needles (no pine)wow I checked them the next day only to find all were gone! When I looked at the ones setting on eggs, there it was. I see am going to have to get more and lay around and order some tobackooooooooooooo stocks too. I hope never to see that again. :)
Jim
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jvrollers
6 posts
Jan 07, 2007
11:22 PM
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Jim i usually switch my pairs around when thing like this comes up or you should let another pair hold and breed the birds for them.
Johnny Vang
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Ballrollers
572 posts
Jan 08, 2007
1:37 PM
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Doug,
I'm like you...I've been using cedar shavings in the nest bowls and as loft litter for several years and ya can't beat it at $5-6 a bale.
YITS,
Cliff
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jammerlofts
104 posts
Jan 08, 2007
2:27 PM
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i find wood stove pellets to be the best thing ever in all of my lofts i used shaving for years until using the pellets i would never use shavings again shavings may be cheap but they hold in the moisture wich is really bad yes i know if you change it often not a problem wich i did but thats the problem having to change it often = more work= more money spent on shavings pellets run 4.50 to 6.00 a 40lb bag and last longer and is much more cleaner and neater so you see do the math use pellets its a win win at least try it and then tell me its not better you wont lol
jc
jammerlofts
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Santandercol
627 posts
Jan 08, 2007
6:06 PM
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I just switched from pine shavings to woodstove pellets on the floor of my lofts,and what a difference!!Much cleaner and the shit seems to dissapear,at first anyways.It mixes in then dries out.----------
Kelly
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J_Star
754 posts
Jan 09, 2007
7:21 PM
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I don't think what happen to that chick was caused by the mother or the father. Nor it was caused due to lack of nest meterials in the nest bowl. Rather, it was caused by another cock in your loft. Keep and eye and you will catch him in the act. Chick killer cocks are somewhat common in lofts. When you catch him, then he has to go no matter how good of producer he is. Unless if you breed him in a separate compartment instead of an open loft. Good luck...
Jay
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