Santandercol
611 posts
Jan 04, 2007
4:43 PM
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How many of you guys fly your kits with the sexes separated?How many fly your kit birds with the hens and cocks together?I'll be flying my birds again in March(I hope)so I guess if I'm gonna split em up now would be a good time,eh?Them cocks are really dickin around now let me tell ya!!!----------
Kelly
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MCCORMICKLOFTS
1032 posts
Jan 04, 2007
5:09 PM
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Kelly, right now I don't mess with moving them around. It's too cold and the cocks really aren't showing much in the way of sex drive. But once March comes around, they start to get gamey and I keep my A team hens and cock separate to be able to manage them better. The other kits stay as one.
Brian.
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Santandercol
612 posts
Jan 04, 2007
8:13 PM
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Brian,
OK,it,s probably warmer here on the wet coast of BC.You're in the mountains aren't you?My birds are gamey already and mating in the kitboxes but I don't really have an A team and B team as the birds I have to fly are all yb's born from May till July of 06 and they haven't had enough fly time for me to evaluate them.As you know these Monty birds need a good year to determine what's what.Do you think I should leave em together even if they are mating up already?
I appreciate all your responses on this forum.Thanks,eh.Kel.
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jammerlofts
95 posts
Jan 04, 2007
8:48 PM
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i have not seperated the sexes in the kit boxes but im going to this year just to see if it really makes a difference
jc
jammerlofts
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MCCORMICKLOFTS
1033 posts
Jan 04, 2007
9:29 PM
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Kelly, I live in so cal which usually has fairly mild winters. But this year it's been really cold at night and into the mornings. Usually I only get a few nights during the winter where it dips below freezing, but this year I've had night after night of it getting below freezing. This year I am also keeping the kit birds down on feed to the point they only will fly 10-30 minutes tops because of the insane high pressue we've had. Couple all of that together and they aren't interested in breeding right now, they'd rather hang near the door to get the sun rays and warm up. Maybe you are feeding yours just a bit too much. Taking some of that feed away will curb their desire to get their groove on, at least until spring. Then you have to tape the legs of the cocks together during the day, even when they are starved..lol
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STARFIRE
285 posts
Jan 04, 2007
10:03 PM
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-Hey Kelly:
Don't fly the hens if they are mated.You have to separate them otherwise if the hen rolls and is carrying an egg she will blow out her oviduct and she will be no good to breed anymore.I usually keep them so hungry at this time of the year ,(when I think Im going to fly them)they only think about when there next meal is coming.LOL
STARFIRE
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Santandercol
616 posts
Jan 05, 2007
5:38 AM
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Good advice on the feed amounts.Thanks.Brian,yeah,the weather has been strange up here in S.W. B.C. this year too.One windstorm after the other and a ton of rain.
You mentioned in your first post on this thread that in spring you keep your A team hens and cocks separate to manage them better.Do you then fly them together or apart?----------
Kelly
Last Edited by on Jan 05, 2007 5:42 AM
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Hector Coya
101 posts
Jan 05, 2007
7:46 AM
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If your kit bird's want to breed,you are feeding them too much.
I lost my main kit in October but i had some 01 and 02 still in that kit and those cocks never tryed to mate,
cut down on the feed and see what happends.
Hector C
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motherlodelofts
1278 posts
Jan 05, 2007
8:54 AM
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I fly them together , if they start pairing up then they are over fed .
If a cock is overly cocky and disturbs the team then he gets the boot out of team , I do not tolorate such cocks and with my birds over cocky birds are not that great anyway and just screw around to much.
Scott
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MCCORMICKLOFTS
1037 posts
Jan 05, 2007
9:21 AM
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Kelly, I fly them together, they are released together, fly together and trap in together. Then I pull one sex or the other and put them back into their box which is right next to the other one. I prefer this method as it allows me to keep a finger on the pulse of the birds, all of the birds. It eliminates some potential problems, and you will discover that your cocks usually require a different feed amount than your hens. Cocks need more, hens need less....at least with my birds anyway.
Another thing to point out is that it is correct to assume the birds are being overfed if they are playing grab ass during the day. BUT, when you are prepping a kit, there is a state of condition during this process that affords rich amounts of feed and consequently you will experience some screwing around.
Last Edited by on Jan 05, 2007 9:22 AM
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Santandercol
617 posts
Jan 05, 2007
4:10 PM
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Bueno,Gracias,
I'll cut their feed back a little for now and see how it affects them.Thanks again,
Kel.
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jeo2314
26 posts
Jan 05, 2007
7:20 PM
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Hi Santandercol, In your situation, I would think about feeding a lot of barley. It is good feed. See if you can find som e good qaulity, you won't be dissapointed and its worth a shot.
Jeff
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Santandercol
618 posts
Jan 05, 2007
9:00 PM
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Jeff,
I've been feeding 3 parts wheat,1 maple peas,1 milo,1 barley.Are you saying feed straight barley,and why,would the cut in protein have some affect?
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Kelly
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jeo2314
27 posts
Jan 06, 2007
6:17 PM
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The mix you are feeding now looks good. The barley helps to curb desire to mate. The birds do not really care for it and don't over eat it. Right now the weather the good feed and their instincts and the breeding desire to breed will be hard to curb. If you put in 4 more parts of barley to what you have now would be 50% barley. I hope this helps.
Jeff
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Santandercol
623 posts
Jan 06, 2007
9:53 PM
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Thanks,I like to hear OPINIONS regarding the birds.It's so cool when I'm looking at them wondering what to do about some thing and to come here and find info to base a decision on.Already cut back the amount I'm feeding them, tomorrow will split them up till I start flying them again and add more barley to the mix and see how it goes.I'll let ya'all know what results we come up with.
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Kelly
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