W@yne
175 posts
Jan 06, 2007
1:37 AM
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Just a quick survey to know how many flyers use landing poles these days?. I know a lot of old timers used these poles but seems like people avoid using them in today's flying probably because flyers want to see their birds dropping straight to the loft instead of poles. There is still a use for them especially in built up areas. In England i can count on 1 hand the number of poles I've seen in flyers lofts please let me know do they serve a purpose and advantage to flying and training your birds.
regards
W@yne uk
Last Edited by on Jan 06, 2007 1:42 AM
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Santandercol
620 posts
Jan 06, 2007
6:21 AM
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W@yne,
Never thought of it.My birds always land first on the neighbours roof,then right away to the kitbox.Just ITCHING to fly my birds thinking about it,nother couple months a lockdown here tho.
Kel.
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J_Star
739 posts
Jan 06, 2007
7:23 AM
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Wayne, here in the US we have the electric wires act like landing poles but we don't like our birds to even land on them but some do anyway.
Jay
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Velo99
836 posts
Jan 06, 2007
7:39 AM
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I have 8x22 patio cover that is next to the kitboxes. Has a nice recoil for the bumpers.
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If they don`t kit,they don`t score.
Color don`t roll and peds don`t fly.
It`s a comp thing,understand?
V99
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STARFIRE
287 posts
Jan 06, 2007
9:06 AM
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Hi W@yne:
The only reason anyone would use a landing board is to stop the birds from bumping when they come in to land.That only ecourages people to keep unstable birds.The birds are unstable and lacking control and the owner is making excuses for them.They will breed more of the same.I don't like them because you cant use a stick to herd the kit in,they will fly to the landing board.and you can't get them down till they want to come.Even if they are really hungry.
STARFIRE
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Steve_uk
32 posts
Jan 06, 2007
9:57 AM
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Advertising pole for would be thieves.
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Shaun
400 posts
Jan 06, 2007
10:02 AM
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Someone who erects a landing pole is likely to be in a built-up area or surrounded by trees, who knows the kit finds difficulty in landing on the loft top. Instead, the birds annoyingly choose the easier option of, say, a house roof. The landing pole is a compromise, as the birds all land there together, before making their final descent to the loft.
It's also used the other way around, for settling youngsters. Rather than have them flagged up from the loft roof, they first gain security in using the landing pole (it's actually a tall pole with other smaller poles sticking out at right angles, upon which the birds land). Bear in mind, we're talking here about the less attractive alternative of birds heading straight for house roofs or trees, due to the surrounding density of property, etc.
Wayne, Graham Dexter sent me pictures of his landing pole in Portugal. I don't think he particularly needs it there, but he's used one for so long it suits his way of doing things. However, he did tell me an intriguing story. Each year he brings a kit of young birds from Portugal to fly in the UK comps. He still maintains a house there and settles them easily with the help of the landing pole, which the birds are used to from his house in Portugal. Graham also said that he can compete in a number of comps over the season, by settling them at different locations (Bill O'Callaghan's, for example), all with the help of the landing pole.
Shaun
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W@yne
176 posts
Jan 06, 2007
10:24 AM
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Good post Shaun
Yes i know Graham brings birds over to fly from Portugal every year the man is so keen to compete .Like you explained there is still a purpose for landing poles around flyers lofts all depends on locations of lofts. Personally I've never used them just fascinated how these flyers use these to gain benefits with their kits. Like i said before many flyers used them years ago is this a dying trend? Any guys out there still use the poles? Shaun any way you can post the picture of grahams loft in portugal on this site.?
regards
W@yne uk
Last Edited by on Jan 06, 2007 10:27 AM
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Shaun
401 posts
Jan 06, 2007
10:54 AM
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Wayne, he emailed me a few pics last year. I'll see if I can find them. Meanwhile, here's another story. when I started with rollers nearly 2 years ago, I was concerned about leaving them with anyone when I went on my trips to my house in France. Looking back it seems daft, but I was determined to take the rollers with me. There was only a couple of dozen at the time, so it didn't seem too outrageous.
Anyhow, Graham said he sometimes would drive his birds through Portugal, then into Spain, through France, then cross over into England. I asked how he managed the customs side of things and any other legalities, as I could see myself doing the far simpler Channel crossing from England to France. He said it was easy; I just had to set myself up with DEFRA as an importer/exporter of birds. Well, I did just that, but soon after that, the bird flu panic came about and DEFRA now had me registered as a pigeon keeper! Of course, at that point, I wasn't allowed to take the birds out of the country and right now, as bird flu rears its ugly head once more, I'm probably one of the first guys they'll come to with their protective white coats and headgear, when there's a need for a localised cull of pigeons!
Shaun
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W@yne
177 posts
Jan 06, 2007
11:01 AM
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Great story Shaun Lol i can see you in the future hiding yer birds in the attic if any outbreaks occur lol. Shaun i did see Grahams pictures of his place in the All England journal but i just thought that the guys over the pond would find them interesting .
regards
W@yne uk
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Ally Mac
142 posts
Jan 06, 2007
2:38 PM
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Hi chaps.
i have a landing pole here, my loft is at the bottom of the garden and the neighbours houses are also higher than the loft so it is actualy quite good for the birds to hit before the loft.
When I was at Daves i saw he had a big pole which I asked him if he thought it was a worthwhile piece of kit. He said it was a complete waste of f****** t*** as the birds have never even looked at it!! Different place up here but same birds and it is used every time they fly.
Al.
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J_Star
749 posts
Jan 08, 2007
7:55 PM
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Remember also that here in the USA, we have pretty much large yards (garden). There is allot of room for the birds to land on their loft. Some people have a small yards and they would have a problem with their birds landing.
Jay
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Ballrollers
597 posts
Jan 09, 2007
9:42 AM
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Shaun,
I have a son who will be leaving for England (North Hampton) on Sunday. He (Nathan) has been recruited to play in a European basketball league. Are you anywhere close by? He says he plans to have rollers someday. I told him to look up some of the roller guys there, but I suspect the only thing he will be looking up are English skirts! LOL!
Cliff
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Shaun
404 posts
Jan 09, 2007
10:48 AM
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Cliff, he'll be about 150 miles north of me, but not too far away from the likes of George Mason. True to type, most roller guys in England are still concentrated around the midlands area, a bit further north from Northampton.
English 'skirt' as we call it, in polite terms, is pretty consistent throughout the UK - unless you're unfortunate enough to stumble across a town where inbreeding has been commonplace. I was once warned of this when I lived not too far from Northampton, and thought it a pile of shite. I then visited such a place and my jaw dropped almost to where most of the locals' knuckles were - on the ground. I kid ye not.
When chatting up the opposite sex, your son needs to learn some of the local vernacular, such as "Do you do the biz on the first night?" Further north still, if he were visiting the very down to earth, Newcastle-upon-Tyne, from whence I originate, it would be more like: "My, you don't sweat much for a fat lass. Do you fancy a shag?"
I'm assuming here that your son is old enough to ask for such favours - he needs to be at least 12.
If you need an interpreter, when your son phones home in despair at what the locals are saying, Wayne or I should be able to help. I'd suggest Ally as well, but the Scottish vernacular is a different story entirely.
Something I almost forgot - if your son is seriously interested in rollers, he should find the nearest pub where all roller men hang out. Of course, they'll all be unemployed and roaring drunk!
Cheers.
Shaun
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bman
159 posts
Jan 09, 2007
11:40 AM
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LMAO........LMAO.......LMAO
Better watch that "skirt" thing with the Scotts.
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Ron
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W@yne
180 posts
Jan 09, 2007
11:58 AM
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Lmao
Shaun good 1 didnt know that you was a Geordie are you sure yer not the guy from viz sid the sexist out the comic lol Cliff hopes your son has a good time over here in sunny England im sure he will.
Last Edited by on Jan 09, 2007 12:28 PM
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spinner jim
31 posts
Jan 09, 2007
1:12 PM
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wayne i have just found out the definition of a northampton virgin------------ its a girl who can run faster than her father lol
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W@yne
183 posts
Jan 09, 2007
1:35 PM
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Lmao Jim come to think about it know a guy from Northampton his arms are very long, His family tree must be like a vertical line he is a right ugly f----r.I have a picture of him over my fire to keep the kids away lmao
Cliff i hope the girls are better looking for your sons sake but a lot of them have tattoo's with their names on their arms i noticed some names are spelled wrong Lmao some also have webbed feet really ugly but they are good swimmers.
Last Edited by on Jan 09, 2007 1:42 PM
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Ballrollers
598 posts
Jan 09, 2007
4:50 PM
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LMAO! LMAO! You guys crack me up! I will definitely pass along these words of wisdom to my son! Better yet, I'll just let him read it for himself!! Too funny!!
YITS,
Cliff
Last Edited by on Jan 09, 2007 4:50 PM
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