nicksiders
1180 posts
Jan 07, 2007
3:34 PM
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I have a breeder hen who has gone "light". Very lathargic and has lost a great deal of weight. She and her mate have newly hatched squabs.
I know we have discuss this before, but could someone walk me through some recommended treatments?
It is rare for me to have sick birds and I haven't been paying attention to the discussions about illnesses.
Nick
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squeeker
10 posts
Jan 07, 2007
3:37 PM
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hey Nick, I would start with a 3 or 4 in 1 med for the pair of them. Are they separated from other birds?
Janene
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spinner jim
27 posts
Jan 07, 2007
3:38 PM
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nick,has she ate some thing in the loft( mice)does she have sour crop is the water fresh and does she have plenty of grit,give us some symptoms we might be able to help jim,
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nicksiders
1181 posts
Jan 07, 2007
4:16 PM
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Plenty of grit available. She is not eating or drinking. I forced her to take on fluid. She is lathargic. Does not venture away from nest box. Her mate is un-effected. No other birds in open loft is showing signs of being effected. No mice or signs of mice.
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spinner jim
28 posts
Jan 07, 2007
4:47 PM
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nick,if its a good bird hand feed her biscuits softened in the mouth for a few minutes,i do this with mine when needed,sounds like she is either poisoned or calcium deficient,you could try vitamin c tabs in some water,can you smell an odour when her beak is open?????,keep me informed its interesting to know,hope she pulls through ok,jim. ps did she throw the water back up.
Last Edited by on Jan 07, 2007 4:51 PM
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birdman
290 posts
Jan 07, 2007
5:12 PM
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Nick,
Salmonella (paratyphoid) can stay hidden until the birds are stressed (breeding) and then rears its ugly head. Did you vaccinate for paratyphoid? That would be my first guess because it is so common.
Russ
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nicksiders
1182 posts
Jan 07, 2007
5:52 PM
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She kept the water down; I did not vaccinate. I am going to attempt fostering her young out and de-stressing her in seclussion for about 72 hours. Hand feed her as well.
Need to know what a biscut would be in the U.S.(LOL) I watch "Keeping Up Appearences" and I never understood what ol' Hyacinth is giving her neighbor when offering a "biscut". I am assuming it is a cookie(LOL).
Nick
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John
39 posts
Jan 07, 2007
6:05 PM
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Hey Nick,
Do have any Baytril on hand? If you do place a couple of drops down her throat and she should show signs of getting better within hours. This for me usually gets them up and starts them to eating on their own. This gives for time to find the problem and try an fix it.If you the baytril don't give them any other medication until the next day because it will kill them.
Hope this helps
John
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birdman
291 posts
Jan 07, 2007
6:58 PM
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Amoxicillin is safe to use when breeding. I would use it for 10 days if you are treating for paratyphoid.
What other symptoms does she have?
Last Edited by on Jan 07, 2007 7:00 PM
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nicksiders
1183 posts
Jan 07, 2007
7:04 PM
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She takes on a stance as if egging, but there is no egg. Tail down; back humped. Throat is clear; vent is clean; eyes normal; no nasal secreations.
Nick
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MCCORMICKLOFTS
1038 posts
Jan 07, 2007
7:09 PM
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If I were a betting man, I'd say it is either e-coli based or possibly cocci. Depends on what her droppings look like. I've had this happen to some hens over the years, usually during their first round of youngsters. Heavy dosages of amoxicillin would be a safe treatment. Amprolium or Baytril would be a good choice too. I've only managed to save a few hens that were caught at this late in the illness. Most eventually just didn't improve and dwindled away to nothing. Break her up from the mate and isolate her where it is warm. If it were me, I'd hit her with the baytril tablets.
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STARFIRE
288 posts
Jan 07, 2007
9:02 PM
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-Hey Nick:
If shes light pull her tail out and give her cod liver oil capsules.Will work if not too far gone.(skin and bone)
STARFIRE
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nicksiders
1184 posts
Jan 07, 2007
9:05 PM
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Thanks guys and gal. I will let ya know what I decided to do with and for her. And, the results as well.
Nick
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nicksiders
1185 posts
Jan 08, 2007
3:06 AM
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Describe "fainted" please
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Bluesman
Pigeon Fancier
960 posts
Jan 08, 2007
3:29 AM
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Hey Stan.I thought I was the only one who still believed in pulling their tail feathers.LOL.
With the Cod Liver Oil I just use a syringe without the needle and shoot some down the throat.The Capsules I get are to big I think.They even choke me. David
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nicksiders
1186 posts
Jan 08, 2007
6:55 AM
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Tail feathers.......then spin around twice, right?
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Tony Chavarria
Site Publisher
1016 posts
Jan 08, 2007
7:08 AM
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Hey Nick, your meds are on the way. Good luck!!
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FLY ON! Tony Chavarria
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nicksiders
1187 posts
Jan 08, 2007
11:34 AM
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Thanks Tony; appreciated
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