lisak39
1 post
Jan 15, 2007
7:43 PM
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Hi, my name is Lisa and I just bought some Roller Pigeons. First of all let me say that all I know about pigeons can fit under one fingernail. I have done a lot of research about pigeons over the past few days, and have learned a lot about their care and feeding. But I have some questions.
*Are all Roller pigeons Birmingham Roller's?
*Do the birds have to be banded?
*If my birds are not banded(they are not) is it ok for me to band my babies?
*I have not been able to find any clubs in my state (WV), anybody know anyone close to me?
*Is there a market for Roller's? I bought 100 Birds.
Thank you so much for answering these questions, and if there are any helpful web sites for novices, I would appreciate all info.
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classicpony
67 posts
Jan 15, 2007
8:16 PM
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Lisa,
Were all newbies sometime, your coming into the hobby at a great time, and you have found a place and the people to answer any and all questions with serveral ideas. Ok
*Are all Roller pigeons Birmingham Roller's? NO Some are homers,some are show rollers, ect.....
*Do the birds have to be banded? NO but its a good idea to band them and track them for keeping records on there young and HOW THEY ROLL!
*If my birds are not banded(they are not) is it ok for me to band my babies? YES This is make them lots easer to keep track of.
*I have not been able to find any clubs in my state (WV), anybody know anyone close to me? Someone else will have to help you there....
*Is there a market for Roller's? I bought 100 Birds. Yes and No. Must people that get top $$ have had birds for years and developed some great rollers, people like to buy from a good bloodline and a bird that rolls and rolls deep but does NOT hit the ground or objects like roofs and trees.
(WOW 100 birds is quite a few to start with, do you know there bloodlines??)
I can not answer everything, I feel an still learning all the time. But I have found that this is the place to ask questions and form your own opinion.
I would try to give you names but there are sooo many here that KNOW, and willing to share their knowledge.
Jim
@birdhouse in Illinois
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rollerpigeon1963
133 posts
Jan 15, 2007
8:33 PM
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Lisa,
Glad you can join the croud.
1. Not all rollers are Birmingham because they might be another performance breed.{oriental rollers}
2. Birds dont have to be banded but your records would be hard to keep.
3. Yes if you band the babies you can keep records a little easier from that day forward.
4. Where are ya at in W.Va. I'm in the southern part of Ohio.
5. Market as selling rollers? No. for eating them or selling them to a market? no there to small. For selling them on a auction block? Probably not unless your willing to take a few dollars apiece for them.
If you like to ask me any other questions please get a hold of me at:
Brian Middaugh @
rollerpigeon@roadrunner.com
website:
http://rollerpigeon1963.tripod.com
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lisak39
2 posts
Jan 15, 2007
8:51 PM
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EAT PIGEONS, please tell me that is a joke!!! No, I meant, that since I have so many, and if they breed as fast as I have been reading that they do, what will I do with all of these birds. All I know is the man had "Roller" pigeons, was selling out his last years birds and I bought them. Did not even know that pigeons came with a pedigree until I started looking them up online.
I am just outside of Huntington, WV, about nine miles, I have 100 acres and just built a 38 ft loft on the side of my barn.
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Santandercol
658 posts
Jan 15, 2007
9:06 PM
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Lisa,
Welcome to a great website for learning about Rollers.Sounds like you may have a good start in a fun hobby.With a 38 ft loft,you have lots of room to play.Good luck!!
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Kelly
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Frankie
7 posts
Jan 15, 2007
9:13 PM
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Hello Lisa, I'm fairly new to rollers myself but I've raised pigeons for many many years. 100 sounds like a lot of birds but when you start flying them you will lose some. Some will just fly away and pray a hawk don't find you and your birds. If a hawk starts getting your birds and everytime you fly them you will probably lose one everytime you fly them. So if you fly much your flock could start disappearing pretty quick. Is there woods around your loft? If so, you will have to be real careful. Regards, Frankie
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nicksiders
1224 posts
Jan 16, 2007
12:18 AM
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I have eaten some kind of pigeon for 50 plus years. Doves; common pigeons; squab in the finest of resturants; rollers; kings (my favorite); homers; nuns; and many others. So, it is not a joke.
Welcome to the hobby and welcome to this site. You will enjoy the experience and you will have a lot of fun and joy.
Was the person you bought the rollers from a man named Cameron?
Good luck
Nick
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Snicker Rollers
Last Edited by on Jan 16, 2007 12:28 PM
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C.J.
879 posts
Jan 16, 2007
4:07 AM
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Lisa first thing you need to do once the birds is to start flying them to see which are good and which aren't. With you having a 100 birds you need to be strict with your culling. I will gaurantee you that not every bird you purchased will be a top roller, especially if none of them are banded start with any thing that doesn't roll culling it. When you cull there are tons of ways to do it. Some of them aren't so pleasant like putting the bird "down". Or you can send them to your local livestock market. Or place an article in your local paper that you have culls for sale. Or yes you can even eat them. They are supposed to be quite good.
I hope this helps.
C.J.
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rollerpigeon1963
134 posts
Jan 16, 2007
8:35 AM
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Lisa,
I live within 45 minutes of Huntington W.Va. There use to be plenty of roller guys up that way but I only know of a few that live between us {I live Sciotoville/Minford Ohio area} There was George Abner and Andy Johnson both in Ohio a little off of route 52. I haven't seen these fellas in a long time. Andy would come down from time to time and George was a trucker and his schedlue was always different. But there is a few guys that still fly down this way. John Bender, Steve Sissle, Myself and a few new guys like oldfart who I need to get up with. I was just called to the powerhouse down on the river to work 7 days a week and 12 hours a day. Really takes away your play time. But don't try and fly those new birds of yours right now for two reasons. One they haven't been settled at your place yet. What I mean they don't know that your place is home. And it takes a good while for them to get settled in. If not you will loose most of them because they are going to go look for home once they are loose. And another reason you don't want to fly right now is because the hawks are really bad right now at this time of year. You will have them scattered everywhere and loose more than you care to.
Now if you want to ask me more about this I would be more than happy to help you out. You can post them here and get a variety of replies or you can email me privately.
Thanks and best of luck
Brian Middaugh
rollerpigeon@roadrunner.com
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lisak39
3 posts
Jan 16, 2007
10:54 AM
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I really appreciate your helpful responses to my questions, they have given me much to think about. The birds have not been delivered to me yet, as I had to get a loft built. After much consideration, I have decided not to go through with my purchase. The gentleman gave me a week to change my mind. I think there are too many birds for one thing, I know absolutely nothing about flying, I live in the country and loose chickens and ducks to hawks every year, and there is just no way in this world that I could EVER cull birds or any other animal. I am the one who takes in the strays that nobody else wants and feed all the dogs in the neighborhood, so that is just not something that I can see myself being capable of. I have a very nice loft for my chickens and ducks though, lol. Again, thank you so much, and God Bless each of you.
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brian430
54 posts
Jan 16, 2007
4:20 PM
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Im sorry Lisak, but if you can't cull, this sport is not for you.
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Brian in Ludlow, MA
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smk
26 posts
Jan 16, 2007
4:56 PM
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i hope you will at least seek out some flyers in your area and see a kit or two fly i believe once you see some rollers in action you might change your mind
smk
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Electric-man
126 posts
Jan 16, 2007
6:06 PM
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Lisa, give it a try,they are wonderful creatures! As a child, I raised several breeds of pigeons,nothing compared to my rollers! I new nothing of competition and it didn't matter. Once you have your birds for awhile, you will start seeing personalities in your birds,they will vary like people.
I suggest get advice on settling you birds,hopefully you can seperate your birds into groups, once you start flying them, pick from the best to breed from. Please don't cross breeds just for color, don't pass on birds that aren' any good, don't breed birds that arnt any good, unless you learn to cull, they multiply like rabbits!
I have a few birds that arent very good but they just seem to work harder at being good parents and have them personalities that you just enjoy having around,I keep them around for foster parents.
Find good people in your area, I would start with Brian Middaugh (good man) and let them help you! The forums will be more help than you can imagine! Don't hesitate to ask questions, some answers won't be sugar-coated, but most people mean well! Trust in God and your common sense and just enjoy your birds for awhile,then you can decide which direction is best for you! Good luk and God bless!
Val
Last Edited by on Jan 16, 2007 6:08 PM
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motherlodelofts
1305 posts
Jan 16, 2007
8:55 PM
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Just enjoy the birds , no you don't have to cull, just enjoy them !!!
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Electric-man
127 posts
Jan 16, 2007
11:09 PM
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Might be easier to talk to another female in the hobby.Her name is kris and she loves to talk pigeons if you want to try a different view.She is just a backyard enthusiest, but very smart at medicating and maintaining healthy birds! Her email is kris@kabstudio.com
Hang in there though, I had a rough start at first too, but I'm glad I hung around!These guys will grow on you, and Tony, the owner of this forum will bend over backwards to help you!
Val
Last Edited by on Jan 18, 2007 11:31 PM
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916birds
5 posts
Jan 16, 2007
11:45 PM
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Hi Lisa,
I'm Vu.... anyways for a little of help and info, i just recently started back into raising roller pigeons... i now have about 25 or 26 rollers right now... and it gets pretty tough... im pretty shure it is really tough with 100 rollers.... to keep this short i have to say that most people on this site are good people or suppose to be good people... anyways i think that its best if you join some club and or ask people online whom are in clubbs of raising roller pigeons... they're great people and will help you out. one thing you do wanna watch out for are thives and worse are hawks and falcons....
Vu-
Last Edited by on Jan 16, 2007 11:46 PM
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Bluesman
Pigeon Fancier
974 posts
Jan 17, 2007
3:01 AM
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Hi Lisa. There is nothing more relaxing than watching a kit of rollers flying.On stressful days you can actually feel the stress leaving you.Hang in there.I am just up the road a ways in South Central Pa.You can email me at dwsaas@greatcove.net if you want to.Don't know a lot but willing to share what I do know. David
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nicksiders
1249 posts
Jan 21, 2007
2:31 PM
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Lisa,
Was the last name of the person you bought the birds from Cameron? Donny Cameron? If it was he is a great guy.
Nick
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Snicker Rollers
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