Oldfart
20 posts
Jan 17, 2007
11:25 AM
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My wife asked me if the pigeon droppings were good for fertilizer in the garden. I could only say,"I don't know",
I'll ask the board! Sooooo, does anyone know?
Thanks,Thom
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classicpony
71 posts
Jan 17, 2007
11:29 AM
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All I can say is "I use it there, does if help?? Guess so??" Has it killed me yet? "I don't think so, but its still in the air... with nose closed." :)
Jim
@birdhouse
Last Edited by on Jan 17, 2007 11:33 AM
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Huey
37 posts
Jan 17, 2007
11:38 AM
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I know that Chicken manure is good. Horse manure is good on figs, althea bushes, and corn but seems to do my tomatos and Peas in.
Several people have told me that pigeon manure was really good in the garden. You can always mix it with grass,leaves,hay, and etc. Let it compost for a year then use it. It will be like fresh dirt then.
Last Edited by on Jan 17, 2007 11:39 AM
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Shaun
419 posts
Jan 17, 2007
11:38 AM
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I only know the answer to this one because I recently observed a number of posts on the very same subject. Pigeon shit is seriously loaded with nutrients which the serious gardener will welcome. Pigeon waste can also be combined with the likes of loft shavings, so it's a big thumbs up all around!
I now have a dozen big, ugly black sacks stuffed full of roller shit and shavings, just waiting to be dug into the earth at springtime. Apparently, I can expect the most amazing roses... which is odd because I haven't planted any.
Shaun
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spinner jim
35 posts
Jan 17, 2007
11:40 AM
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best to leave it for a year at least,i use it in my vegetable patch but if used fresh it burns the plants,the second year its excellent ,put under the beans its wonderful stuff,alternatively bury it at least a foot under the ground and it wont burn ,it will still give off gas which will promote growth, (i bet wayne didnt know this lol) jim.
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W@yne
197 posts
Jan 17, 2007
1:10 PM
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Lol Jim
Actually i did know it is a natural excellerator i used to have a compost heap and it made the finest feed additive for around the garden also friends of mine would come round when fishing because it attracted thousands of worms so sorry Jimbo i think i knew that one bro Lol.
regards
W@yne uk
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MILO
116 posts
Jan 17, 2007
1:22 PM
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Jim is right. It doubles the size of my tomatos and fava beans. We've used it for years. Fresh, it will burn everything. Let it dry and is is great stuff.
c
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spinner jim
37 posts
Jan 17, 2007
1:53 PM
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My daughter made a wonderful current cake today,when i asked her where she got all the lovely currents from she said "oh the rabbit hutch is full of them" ???,lol jim.
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nicksiders
1228 posts
Jan 17, 2007
2:32 PM
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Pigeon dung is very high in amonia type properties and can quickly burn plants.....so go lightly and mix it in with the other soils.
The best thing to do with it is bag it; place in the trash can; and put it to the curb for the pick up. Too much shit of any kind can be troublesome in the long term.
Nick
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Snicker Rollers
Last Edited by on Jan 17, 2007 2:40 PM
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J_Star
765 posts
Jan 17, 2007
2:38 PM
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When you give your birds ACV, it adds nutriants to the droppings. What I usually do is pack it into bags and give it to my next door neighbor. He tells the stuff in the ground with a tiller a few times in the early spring and wallah his produce is health and great.
Don't just spread the stuff on top of the ground. Then it will burn up the plants.
Jay
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Santandercol
670 posts
Jan 17, 2007
3:08 PM
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I've been running it through the composter with layers of stuff from the kitchen,leaves,weeds in the spring and sometimes some soil layered in there.Ashes from the woodstove are good to mix in too.Sprinkle a little lime in there to cut the acidity of the litter.Usually every month or so I can shovel some nice dirt laced with worms out of the bottom opening on the composter directly onto the garden,but this time of year,with the cold temps the process is slowed down quite a bit.Those round black plastic composters you can buy at Home Dummy work real good.I have 2 working now with 90 birds and had to start an open pile in the garden.So,if you have the space,3 or 4 is a good idea.As long as you cover each layer of shit with something like leaves or dirt,the smell is kept to a minimum.Once that dry stuff gets wet if you don't cover it the ammonia smell is pretty bad.-------
Kelly
Last Edited by on Jan 17, 2007 5:47 PM
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Oldfart
21 posts
Jan 17, 2007
3:15 PM
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Thanks everyone,
Sounds like I will be starting a compost pile soon. I appreicate all the input, this board rocks! Shaun, my wife will be expecting a bakers dozen of your red roses.:-)
Thom
Last Edited by on Jan 17, 2007 3:16 PM
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rollerman132
51 posts
Jan 18, 2007
1:49 PM
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I remember reading an old NBRC article, that said it was bad to use foul droppings as fertilizer. It said something about the droppings developing mold spores when the ground got wet, and being sucked in to the lungs when the dry soil was disturbed. I would look into to it if I were you.
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nicksiders
1230 posts
Jan 18, 2007
3:32 PM
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It is not a recommended fertilizer; niether is chicken dung. Got too many properties that are deturents to plant growth. Check it out first, before you begin to put it in your garden or spead it out on your lawn.
Nick
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Snicker Rollers
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Santandercol
674 posts
Jan 18, 2007
4:39 PM
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It definately needs to be composted well,with the tempurature in the pile or composter getting high enough for it to be hot to touch inside when you drill a hole into it with a rod or whatever.So in colder climes,the pile you build in the winter will have to be left till at least May or June to be able to shovel it onto the garden.But starting April on a new pile I'll be shoveling it out as dirt by early August.It is amazing what you can compost and make rot till it turns to dirt good to grow things in.Most of the waste from the fish processing industry in BC goes to make what they call seasoil and it is sold in the nurseries.Shit,,,,did I say too much???Don't ask me gardening questions or I'll go on forever.
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Kelly
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