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Feed Mixes...???
Feed Mixes...???
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Hayseedboy
23 posts
Jan 31, 2007
9:31 AM
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All,
With the price of grain going up I would like to see what opinions you all have about how to mix.
We have used a couple of standard premixes but, they are going up to fast for me. Also we have mixed our own i.e. wheat, milo and a sprinkling of peas. I find that the rollers don't like corn nearly as well as our "vacuums" the homers so, the mixes are different.
All of the grain here has increased. What do you all find both for your breeders and flyers to be the best mix without being to economically prohibitive? Two separate mixes? High Octane for one and High Protein for the other?
Sick'm guys!!!
Larry
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Missouri-Flyer
162 posts
Jan 31, 2007
10:03 AM
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Hi Larry,
Long time no hear,...I feed a commercial feed to my breeders and flyers...I have not experimented with mixed feed, so not sure what the difference with "my" birds it would make. You are right about the price of feed tho..I am gonna have to start eating the culls to pay for the price increase...Oh crap, hope that comment didnt pop anyones cherry!....LOL...Jerry
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Eat, sleep, Cowboys, Pigeons... The facts of life
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Missouri-Flyer
165 posts
Jan 31, 2007
10:25 AM
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Larry,
here is an excerpt from the Jan./Feb. 2003 issue of NBRC Mag...On page 71 they are discussing an interview with Pensom in 1966 who states: One of the best grains that you can feed pigeons is small yellow corn. You add to this 15% wheat and 10% peas and you have a long-term energy feed for good strong flying. If you want the birds to fly close together and dart about in small circles, feed them plenty of peas. Rollers will fly steady if fed upon an ordinary mixture including 10% inclusive of lentils,flax,millet,rice,rape,and spanish canary seed. Barley,especially malting barley,is a good cereal for long,high,steady flying,but they do not last long enough on it. Barley and flax seed are especially good during the moulting season. A good red wheat is also good at this time....he goes on to say that:My advice to any roller fancier is to obtain a decent pigeon feed mixture and some millet seed, also of decent quality, and do not overfeed. Jerry
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Eat, sleep, Cowboys, Pigeons... The facts of life
Last Edited by on Jan 31, 2007 10:45 AM
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bman
199 posts
Jan 31, 2007
10:34 AM
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Larry,
I started last year using Purina pellets.First used them for maintenance (stock birds)Then I tried them on the Homers.
I am very satified.This year I also included the breeders,
now everyone except kit birds are on it.I am very happy with the results.There are two kinds,green and gold and you mix them according to your needs(chart on bag).
They run about $14.00 per 50lb bag here.The reason I haven't used them on the kit birds is because of increased water intake with the pellets.The rest are getting just pellets,no grit or supplements and are doing great.
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Ron
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nicksiders
1305 posts
Jan 31, 2007
1:15 PM
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I buy single grains and mix my own. That way I can increase/decrease certian grains to adjust fat and protien levels. The single grains I have available is austrian peas(I like the size of the pea); wheat; safflower; milo; red millet. I also add a mixture I buy from a company called "Pigeon Health Naturally". One table spoon heaping per about 5 gallons of feed (about a bucket). It helps with thier ammune system and thier digestive sytem (it also makes thier droppings smell a lot niser-LOL). This single grain management allows you to quickly go to all wheat or wheat/milo mixture with your kit birds without a hassle if that is what you choose to do.
I choose red millet over the white millet just because it looks better (its for me). The nutrition is about equal.
There is a site that I used that will give you the fat and protien contents of each single grain. There is another site that has a system available that you can tell it how many cups of each grain you add for the mixture what your protien and fat percentages are.
To get these single grains that are clean and high quality stuff I have to travel 70 miles one way, but it is worth it.
Nick
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Snicker Rollers
Last Edited by on Jan 31, 2007 1:18 PM
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motherlodelofts
1351 posts
Feb 01, 2007
6:47 AM
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I'm with Nick , I mix all my own, I keep Salfflour, Austrian peas, Wheat and Milo one hand. If I lived in colder regions I would add corn to that also , instead I'll up the Salflour in the cold months since it's rare that we hit below 30 deg.
A good youngbird mix is two parts Wheat,one part Milo, 2/3 part peas and 1/3 part Salflour.
The breeders that are breeding get 16 0/0 lay pellets.
I can go richer or leaner on protien by mixing my own depending on age of the birds and temps.
Summer months the protien will get much leaner, during the moult I up the Salflour for the fat content.
Or I'll just use straight grains such as Wheat when needed for mature flyers , your options are endless.
Scott
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Alohazona
232 posts
Feb 01, 2007
9:10 AM
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My breeders get a "no corn" breeder condtioner that I special order from Royal feeds.Just like others ,I do the wheat,austrian peas,milo and safflower,individually for flyers.A teaspoon of flaxseed,and an occasional feed dusting of vita-king red racing minerals.My older flyers get mostly wheat or peas,and I adjust the milo and safflower as I see fit.One thing I don't want is my youngsters to fill up on milo,theres just not enough there.Once i have knocked them down alittle for performance,I will throw in 3 or 4 days of "breeder conditioner" to put some weight back on ,coupled with rest...Aloha,Todd
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smokey
112 posts
Feb 01, 2007
10:00 AM
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hey jerry when i was a kid my dad had many diff. breeds of pigeons but only two types. those that look good on the perch and those that look good on the table. smokey
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