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Who's Afraid Of Color Rollers?
Who's Afraid Of Color Rollers?
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Tony Chavarria
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1057 posts
Feb 02, 2007
5:28 AM
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In response to a post in another thread:
I don’t think anyone is “afraid” of color rollers. Wait I KNOW no one is afraid of color rollers. I think the point of separation is that 1 group is of the opinion that there is a “breed” of rolling pigeon known as the “Birmingham Roller” and thus have a strong desire to preserve that breed and all its wonderful physical, mental and rolling traits regardless of color series with a specific focus on selecting only those traits that best continue the breed.
There is a second just as passionate group (color breeders, et al) that is of the opinion that “Birmingham Roller” is nothing more than a “TERM” used to describe a roller that is performing with inconceivable rapidity.
Isn't trying to characterize someone who is trying to preserve what he believes to be a breed as “afraid” pretty arrogant and condescending?
If we did not have such people in our society who preserved and promoted what they believed to be standards, what good then is a standard? How could we ever make progress at all?
If all is relative and perception is reality then all we do is run in a self-deluded circle thinking we are making progress!
To paraphrase something from this post I read, the longer we are in this game and we pay attention, we WILL discover what IS GOOD and what IS NOT.
But that’s just my opinion! And what do I know; I am just someone who believes that the BR is a breed. LOL I will go back to my circle, I think I am making some progress.
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FLY ON! Tony Chavarria
Last Edited by on Feb 02, 2007 5:34 AM
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longarm
56 posts
Feb 02, 2007
5:45 AM
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tony perhaps you misunderstand me. I agree that the preservation of the true birmingham or what is left of that line is a good thing. The fear factor come from the voiced opinion that the "" color breeders are destroying the breed not of the birds themselves. Or more appropriatly of haveing the other birds classified as birmingham rollers. I dont belive they are the same thing. The true birminghams have there origion in imported birds from england and have never been deviated in blood. This in itself is difficult to prove but not impossible. The other birds whether they be colored birds who have been subjected to outcrossings ( I dont belive all colored rollers have been)or N.A.H.F. should not be defined as birms. It does a great disservice to both the birms and the other rollers. I dont expect you or anyone else to run when aproched by an almond roller LOL It has been expressed that colored rollers would destroy a newbies desire to fly or the good name of the birminghams. c.j.
arogent condesending Yes I have been called that before but I have tryed to avoid useing those terms twords others whoms opinons or means of expression differ from mine. Glad to see where we stand c.j.
Last Edited by on Feb 02, 2007 5:49 AM
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Tony Chavarria
Site Publisher
1058 posts
Feb 02, 2007
6:08 AM
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Hey C.J. I am glad for understanding as well. Genetically speaking, it is difficult if not impossible to know what is and is not an "original" Birmingham Roller. I think at this point in history, all we have is the "concept" of a true Birmingham Roller to promote or argue over! LOL
I accept that. In my opinion, the logic and value behind the Birmingham Roller as a breed far outwieghs "Birmingham Roller" as a term.
Without the logic factor, the argument sounds like bickering between 10 year olds! LOL Those that espouse the Birmingham Roller as a breed need to start presenting rational arguments and any evidence they can, otherwise relativism (no standards) always sounds better (at first).
Good thoughtful post C.J. My respect for your posting efforts has just increased.
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FLY ON! Tony Chavarria
Last Edited by on Feb 02, 2007 6:47 AM
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