trevsta65
52 posts
Feb 05, 2007
1:09 AM
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just wondering if anyone has a system i could follow on pdf format or similar on keeping records on my breeding pairs i had a system that i found awhile go but i lost it when my comp crashed and it is no longer available im not very computer savy so it cant be to confusing.any help on this matter would be greatly appreciated cheers trev
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Missouri-Flyer
201 posts
Feb 05, 2007
6:17 PM
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Trev,
No help here as I still keep mine on notebooks...gets kinda tiring keeping track with all of those pages....Jerry
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Eat, sleep, Cowboys, Pigeons... The facts of life
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J_Star
796 posts
Feb 05, 2007
6:55 PM
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Trev, what is your email? I will send you some paper forms. And if you wait a little while, there will be a complete and comprehensive loft management and analysis database software coming up soon. The user friendly software will allow you to track and manage your loft and slice and dice the data for performance analysis. I am finally very excited seeing my program coming to completion.
Jay
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Hayseedboy
27 posts
Feb 05, 2007
9:12 PM
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Jay,
Tell us more...
Larry
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Tony Chavarria
Site Publisher
1091 posts
Feb 05, 2007
9:23 PM
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YEEEEEHAWWWWWW! Jay, when is the release date?
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FLY ON! Tony Chavarria
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tapp
189 posts
Feb 05, 2007
11:17 PM
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I'll be getting one Jay, if it's easy to use.I'll still use my binders with breeding records I'm not real good with the puter. I even type with one finger! How soon ya think?
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Tapp
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nicksiders
1356 posts
Feb 05, 2007
11:50 PM
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I will be ordering
Nick
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Snicker Rollers
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ArlenS
12 posts
Feb 06, 2007
11:28 AM
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Jay,
I would like to order your software also as soon as it is available. In the interim, could you please e-mail me the paper form also. Thanks! My e-mail is Arlen.Siert@xcelenergy.com
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W@yne
248 posts
Feb 06, 2007
10:58 PM
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Interested my self in yer software programme. Jay could you send me the paper forms also thx.
W@yne uk
wiganroller@yahoo.co.uk
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J_Star
802 posts
Feb 07, 2007
5:26 AM
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Thank you all. I am currently researching of how to package the software with the runtime version of MS Access so that people who don't have MS Access on their PC or have an older version can run the software. I also have about 4 more reports to finish (small time stuff).
I developed the software using MS Access 2000 then convert it to 2002. But to be able to create a packaged solution (Software plus MS Access engine), I need MS Office 2003. MS Office 2003 ships with Access 2003 runtime and the license to redistribute solutions with the Access runtime is available exclusively through the Access Developer Extensions which I need to research how to purchase it. I am working on it and once I get this issue resolved, the software will be ready. I think I need couple more weeks or a little longer.
Wayne, what do you mean by paper forms thingy you are talking about? Are you talking about a print copy of the forms in the software?
I will post what the software is capable of doing to track the data to manage the loft, and all the reporting aspect of the software in a few days. I assure you it does it all for the most part. Please stay tuned and thanks for your support.
Jay
Last Edited by on Feb 07, 2007 5:27 AM
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STARFIRE
319 posts
Feb 07, 2007
8:46 AM
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-Hey Guys:
If you want a free software program to record your birds ==Go to= (Edited By Moderator)
Its a good program.
STARFIRE
Last Edited by on Feb 07, 2007 9:19 AM
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Tony Chavarria
Site Publisher
1110 posts
Feb 07, 2007
9:21 AM
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I say we support Jay and a program that is being written, sweated over and designed just for the roller.
Advances our cause, right?
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FLY ON! Tony Chavarria
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nicksiders
1370 posts
Feb 07, 2007
9:43 AM
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I will wait for Jay's
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Snicker Rollers
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W@yne
250 posts
Feb 07, 2007
10:23 AM
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Jay
Ill look forward to seeing the end product of your software.
What will be the price of this software Jay?
Will we be able to buy it from you from over the uk.
Good luck with your project Jay.
regards
W@yne uk
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Hayseedboy
28 posts
Feb 07, 2007
1:33 PM
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Hey J,
Will you post some screen shots or allow a temp password or something of a trial? I like to see what I am buying before I buy it :)
Don't want the milk... just wanna know what the cow can produce.
Larry
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J_Star
805 posts
Feb 08, 2007
6:32 AM
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My friends,
This software really resembles what you do manually to manage your loft. It is that simple. Let’s say you have your breeder loft and kit boxes built and you are going to start in rollers. First you go out shopping for roller families, some of us settle on one family while others might get three or four families. Then you select cocks and hens that are worth breeding. Once you identify your breeders, you put the cocks in one corner and the hens in another and start matching them to see which pair looks good together based on the performance compatibility. After that you mate them together. You wait a little while and you have babies produced on monthly bases, then you band them and you keep track which squeaker from which pair and who is his nest mate and so on. Your breeders don’t always produce like champs; some might have fertility or hatchability problems while others might be producing on the clock. Those squeakers are then moved to the kit box which at this time untested. Few months down the road some prove themselves to be keepers, some will be culled and some be lost to predators, overfly, sold or loaned and other methods. Sometimes the fancier like to break up some of his breeders within the same season or every season to put them on different mates. Sometimes he puts one breeder cock on several breeder hens.
Every bird you have whether is a breeder, squeaker or flyer, the status would be considered active unless they are sold, loaned, culled, lost or killed. Then you start moving kit birds from a kit box to a kit box (to A team, B team etc.). Now your friend Joe Blow comes to visit you and he likes your birds, so you loan him couple breeders and sell him few kit birds. Most likely you don’t mark anywhere when he borrowed the breeders and when he is suppose to bring them back and how much you sold him each flyer. And the process repeats season after season.
The software does the same thing. It is a menu driven.
First menu (Main) let you choose The following:
1) Screen Menu (Sub Main Menu#1)
2) Report Menu (Sub Main Menu#2)
3) Exit
If you choose the ‘1’ Screen Menu (Sub Main Menu#1), there are three choices:
1) Performance Pigeon Data Entry Menu
2) Performance Pigeon Search and Update Menu
3) Performance Pigeon Search and View Menu
4) Return ----- (will take you back to the main menu)
If you select ‘1’ (Date Entry) it will take you to the next menu for data entry and the selections are:
1) Enter Pigeon Families
2) Enter Breeder Cocks
3) Enter Breeder Hens
4) Enter Offspring and Flyers
5) Enter Cock to Hen Mating
6) Enter Pigeon Transactions
7) Enter Fertility problems with Mates
8) Return ---- (will take you one menu back to the calling menu)
If you select ‘2’ (Search and Update) from the screen menu it will take you to the next menu and the selection are:
1) View and Update Pigeon Families
2) View and Update Breeder Cocks
3) View and Update Breeder Hens
4) View and Update Offspring and Flyers
5) View and Update Mated breeders
6) View and Update Rollers Transaction
7) View and Update Fertility Problems
8) Return
If you select ‘3’ (Search and View) from the screen menu it will take you to the next menu and the selection are:
1) View Breeder Cock and his Mates
2) View Breeder Hen and her Mates
3) View Breeder Cock and all his Offspring
4) View Breeder Hen and all her Offspring
5) View a Youngster and his Father and Mother.
6) Return
If you go back to the Main Menu and select ‘2’ Reports menu, you get the next selection:
1) Roller Husbandry tracking Menu
2) Breeder Cock Tracking Menu
3) Breeder Hen Tracking Menu
4) Flyers and Offspring Tracking Menu
5) Performance Pigeon Analysis
6) Return
If you select ‘1’ for Husbandry Tracking, the following report selection appears:
1) All Families Information Tracking Report
2) One Family Information Tracking Report
3) Fertility Problems Tracking By Date range Report
4) Return
If you select ‘2’ for Breeder Cock Tracking, the following report selection appears:
1) Breeder Cocks By Date Range Report
2) Breeder Cock By Band Number Report
3) All Active Breeder Cocks By Date Range Report
4) Breeder Cocks By Date Range and Status Report
5) Breeder Cocks and their Offspring By Date Range Report
6) A Breeder Cock and his Offspring By Date Range Report
7) Return
If you select ‘3’ for Breeder Hen Tracking, the following report selection appears:
1) Breeder Hens By Date Range Report
2) Breeder Hen By Band Number Report
3) All Active Breeder Hens By Date Range Report
4) Breeder Hens By Date Range and Status Report
5) Breeder Hens and their Offspring By Date Range Report
6) A Breeder Hen and her Offspring by Date Range Report
7) Return
If you select ‘4’ for Flyers and Offspring Tracking, the following report selection appears:
1) Active Flyers By Date Range report
2) All flyers By Date Range and Status Report
3) Flyers and Youngsters Tracking By Band Number Report
4) Flyers in a Kit By Kit Box tracking Report
5) Return
If you select ‘5’ for Performance Pigeon Analysis Tracking, the following report selection appears:
1) Breeder Cocks Analysis Menu
2) Breeder Hens Analysis Menu
3) Flyers Analysis Menu
4) Return
If you select ‘1’ from above for Breeder Cocks Analysis, the following report selection appears:
1) Breeder Cocks By Performance Measurement Report
2) Breeder Cock/Offspring By Performance Measurement Report
3) Sold Breeder Cocks Information By Date Range Report
4) Loaned Breeder Cocks Information By Date Range Report
5) Return
If you select ‘2’ from the Performance Analysis Tracking, the following report selection appears:
1) Breeder Hens by Performance Measurement Report
2) Breeder Hen/offspring By Performance Measurement Report
3) Sold Breeder Hens Information By Date Range Report
4) Loaned Breeder Hens Information By Date Range Report
5) Return
If you select ‘2’ from the Performance Analysis Tracking, the following report selection appears:
I am still working on the reports in this section as well as more reports for analysis to the Breeder Cocks and Hen.
Now you see how involved this software and the work behind it. I will send a word document about the software and screen prints of the Tracking System to give you an early peak into the software. Remember that I was creating this software for my own use, but when I realized of how sophisticated it is I though of make it available to the rest of the roller community. Most likely this software when finished, be available from Roller-Pigeon.com through Tony. Him and I need still to discuss terms and the how and the when and How much. I will keep you posted on the progress. Stay tuned for more. Thanks.
Jay
Last Edited by on Feb 08, 2007 7:09 AM
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Jimbo113
73 posts
Feb 08, 2007
7:50 AM
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Sounds great Jay. Is this going to be PDA friendly? Just curious.
Jimbo
"We Don't Rent Pigs"
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Bundee
17 posts
Feb 08, 2007
9:29 AM
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Looks good and sounds good Jay, send me a form
rolldown4@yahoo.com
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motherlodelofts
1431 posts
Feb 10, 2007
8:03 AM
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I like to keep it a tad simpler , in a book are band numbers for the year , next to that are what parents the bird is out of and date born , then color and eye color , after that it's slight notes ,
when it started hammering with qaulity ,A team , stock, cull , died ect. ect. .
The book is "everything" nor does the book ever ever leave the house , and it is always at hand , to be honest , I'm really not sure why anything else is needed.
Scott
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