classicpony
106 posts
Feb 11, 2007
8:41 PM
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It just broke my heart, having to get rid of 2 dead young birds that were just born a couple days before. I figure they froze to death in the nest?? The Birds had a nice nest of tobacco stalks in a paper bowl to help keep them warm. But they left it, just letting the young die. This is the second time this pair have killed their young chicks after hatching.
What do I do now, give them another chance??
Jim
@thebirdhouse
Last Edited by on Feb 12, 2007 7:51 AM
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luis
167 posts
Feb 11, 2007
9:26 PM
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Jim if they were feeding the young i would give them another shot when it warms up.Sometimes it's just to cold for squabs to survive when the parents no longer want to sit on them all day!It happened to me a few months ago with a cold front we got here in the San Gabriel Valley.Good luck!
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Santandercol
749 posts
Feb 11, 2007
9:55 PM
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Jim,
Give them another chance but try locking them in the breeder box for the first 10 days after hatching the eggs.Give the young a chance to fatten a bit and if the adults are locked in the box they may sit the young better. ---
Kelly
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motherlodelofts
1440 posts
Feb 12, 2007
7:05 AM
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yes Jim it sucks , you take cold weather and inexperianced parents though and it gets tough.
I started a month early this year and just as the last time I did it I had problems.
once you get into March ,April,May things get a lot easier.
Scott
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Tony Chavarria
Site Publisher
1139 posts
Feb 12, 2007
7:21 AM
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Hey Classic, Sorry for that loss. I use heaters installed on the walls. Works great, 70-80 degrees in the loft when its 20 degrees outside.
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FLY ON! Tony Chavarria
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Missouri-Flyer
237 posts
Feb 12, 2007
7:23 AM
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Dang Tony,
I may move from the dog house to the loft when we get together..I will leave the dog where she belongs tho..LOL
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kcfirl
65 posts
Feb 12, 2007
9:16 AM
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Tony,
does it get down to 20% where you live?
Ken
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bman
214 posts
Feb 12, 2007
10:19 AM
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Jim,
Sorry to hear that.I heated the breeder loft this year to.
I keep it about 55F and have no problems so far.We have had two weeks with lows in the minuses and highs struggling to get to the double digits.
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Ron
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Missouri-Flyer
238 posts
Feb 12, 2007
10:21 AM
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Ken,
I live near Tony and we have our share of single digit temps, as well as some below zero..Yep, it does get cold here in the Show-Me-State..Jerry
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Tony Chavarria
Site Publisher
1143 posts
Feb 12, 2007
10:24 AM
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Hey Jerry, Lex asked me to ask you if you would at least stop by for a while before going to the loft. LOL
Ken, yes it gets pretty cold for this California born and raised boy: lowest so far has been 4 degrees F. does not include the wind chill.
Check out these pictures of my kit box. Doors were totally sealed with ice and birds were in it. I had to get the hammer and bust them out! I have pictures somewhere of them being totally seled but I can't locate them on my hard drive...
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FLY ON! Tony Chavarria
Last Edited by on Feb 12, 2007 10:26 AM
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Missouri-Flyer
240 posts
Feb 12, 2007
10:28 AM
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LMAO..Is she in heat still??? Nice pic..It is supposed to stay in the 20's the rest of the week. Spring will be here sooner or "later"..Jerry
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Tony Chavarria
Site Publisher
1144 posts
Feb 12, 2007
10:30 AM
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Hey Jerry, I forgot to tell you, Lex is a boydog. LOL
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FLY ON! Tony Chavarria
Last Edited by on Feb 12, 2007 10:30 AM
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Missouri-Flyer
241 posts
Feb 12, 2007
10:47 AM
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O,
that makes me feel good!..Guess I better go check my self in a mirror..
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ArlenS
13 posts
Feb 12, 2007
12:13 PM
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Heating Breeding Lofts:
What type of devices do you use to heat your breeding lofts? Does anyone use oil heaters? I have heard they are energy efficient. What device would be the least fire hazard?
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Ballrollers
662 posts
Feb 12, 2007
12:30 PM
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classicJim,
Keep an eye on those tobacco stems. I don't like 'em. Soemtimes they can be too coarse and cause broken eggs and squashed youngsters, too. Pine needles or carpet padding or shavings work much better in my opinon.
YITS,
Cliff
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nicksiders
1394 posts
Feb 12, 2007
12:40 PM
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Tony,
What is that white stuff you are using to landscape?
Nick
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bman
216 posts
Feb 12, 2007
5:23 PM
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Arlen,
My breeding loft is on the second floor of my kennel/barn.
I have a electric on the first floor nad keeps the second floor about 55F.Light and heat run around $50 a month in the winter.
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Ron
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classicpony
107 posts
Feb 15, 2007
4:44 AM
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Cliff and all the rest,
THANKS FOR ALL the ideas. Yes I will give them another chance in warmer weather.
Jim
@thebirdhouse
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motherlodelofts
1451 posts
Feb 15, 2007
7:30 AM
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Jim
Right now I am keeping in the house and hand feeding two young one's that I brought back to life with a blow dryer , both of these out of different nests.
Saved another yesterday morning, so always get some heat to them before declaring them dead, they will hit a state where all indications are that they are dead, start warming them up,and many times they start coming out of it.
It is just plain hard to breed this time of year.
Scott
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Ballrollers
666 posts
Feb 15, 2007
8:07 AM
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Scott,
I would never have figure you for a soft heart, like that! LOL! My guess would have been that you would have let them croak if they couldn't hack it! You ol' softie...I guess there's hope for you after all, buddy! LOL!
YITS,
Cliff
PS. If I was breeding out of the same birds as you, I'd be out there rescuing little pigeon-sickles, too!
Last Edited by on Feb 15, 2007 8:10 AM
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motherlodelofts
1452 posts
Feb 15, 2007
9:07 AM
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Hey , I'm soft towards Bonnie and Delbert at all !!!!!!
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MCCORMICKLOFTS
1175 posts
Feb 15, 2007
10:39 AM
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Tony, if it makes you feel better, it is supposed to be a balmy 83 degrees here today, you know, that place you moved from...lol
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bman
220 posts
Feb 15, 2007
11:40 AM
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Hey Brian (BMC),
I was wondering if you would be interested in adopting me?
15 inches of snow and 30mph winds yesterday.Today high of
11 degrees.
Resume; Fair to middlin wing shot,Excellent at gun care,
will scrape perches an haul feed.No pedigree LOL
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Ron
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Flyin Hawaiian
7 posts
Feb 16, 2007
8:01 PM
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Hi Jim,
When this occurs it pays to have a 25 watt light bulb burning all night in the loft it is usually a case of the hen getting her last minute fill of grub because of the cold nights to blanket her down and not being able to find her way back to the nest. I have learned this a long time ago when a very estute fancier by the name of Bill Schrieber got me privy of why I was loosing some youngsters from parents abanding the nest and young freezing. Its really very inexpensive to leave a 25 watt light bulb burning than it is to stomach the loss of two potential babies.
Ivan
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Ballrollers
670 posts
Feb 16, 2007
8:22 PM
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HOwdy, Ivan,
Don't see you post 'round these parts very often....welcome, buddy!!
YITS,
Cliff
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