j0nny_l0
3 posts
Feb 21, 2007
8:28 AM
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Hi Everyone,
I'm kinda new to this forum. I just want your guys opinon. I used to live with my parents and I was able to keep as many pigeon as I wish. But now that I live in another city, Sacramento in California, I unable to have pigeons because I live in an apartment. But I have this crazy idea, I can bring up a pair with me. I can keep this pair in a rabbit cage inside or a hutch outside. What do you guys think? Is this crazy? What will the apartment managers say? They did say that I can have BIRDS as pets. And pigeons are pets. What are the risk for me and the pigeon, as in health wise?
Thanks
j0nny
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belle
165 posts
Feb 21, 2007
9:15 AM
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If the apartment manager said you can have pet birds then go get you a pair. I would still have a kit or two and a few pairs to breed from if I lived in a apartment.
Justin
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ArlenS
18 posts
Feb 21, 2007
9:34 AM
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Hi Jonny,
I can identify with your enthusiasm. My first pigeons were a wild pair of squabs I captured and raised in a rabbit hutch.
Pigeons are a little large and on the messy side for indoor birds. If the bird must be indoors, you may be better off to start with a smaller bird such as a parakeet which would be easier and would interact more with you. You can let them out at times to fly around the apartment, and they will bond with their caregiver if kept as a single bird.
You and your pigeons could experience more enjoyment if you could keep them outside in a secure locked rabbit hutch, and fly them for exercise periodically. Best to do this prior to feeding them when they are hungry to avoid having them stray for prolonged periods and risk them getting lost. Avoid overcrowding. A pair of a smaller breed such as birmingham rollers would be sufficient. However, if you let them reproduce, it would become too crowded. If you can't let them fly, best to keep a show pair of pigeons.
Pigeons shed some feathers periodically, and heavily during their annual fall molt. They also shed "bloom", a white powdery dust from their feathers, to which some chronically overexposed individuals have become allergic. At a minimum, it would make a mess around your cage. They produce a relatively large amount of excrement that must be cleaned regularly. Like other animal (and human) excrement, it may contain bacteria that may potentially cause human infection or contaminate food, thus handwashing after contact is important. Good luck.
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ArlenS
19 posts
Feb 21, 2007
9:48 AM
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Sorry Jonny,
After more carefully rereading your post, I realized you are already experienced in pigeons. With my experience just letting some of my pairs breed and sometimes reproduce in the garage in breeding cages, it can get pretty messy and smells unless cleaned often. I'd go for the outdoor option with birmingham rollers if your hutch is secure.
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j0nny_l0
6 posts
Feb 21, 2007
10:51 AM
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ArlenS,
I guess i will buy a rabbit hutch and put the pair outside. By the way I live on the 2nd floor, so I don't think I will need that hutch that secure. Also I was thinking that I can bring down the offsprings produce by the pair back to my parents place and leave them there. My parents own a little farm and some of my birds, not good rollers, fly freely there.
Thanks for the reply
j0nny
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sac_spinners
60 posts
Feb 21, 2007
1:22 PM
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Hey Jonny, what part of sacramemto are you from? if i was you i would just raise them at your parents farm that way they will have more space and a better enviroment to live in and Welcome to the site and good luck with your birds
spin to win
Chor
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Steve_uk
91 posts
Feb 21, 2007
1:30 PM
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If its a 1 bedroom apartment i'd have my old bird kit in the living room and fly them out the window you want your yearlings in the kitchen train these while you make tea, and fly your young birds out the bedroom and get your stock birds in the hall way.
Steve
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smokey
124 posts
Feb 21, 2007
1:33 PM
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hey jonny a small box inside in front of a window with small flight cage outside might be just the ticket. smokey
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ArlenS
20 posts
Feb 21, 2007
1:33 PM
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It sounds like you must have a small outdoor balcony? When I lived in Vallejo, CA (I was there during the earthquake - it cracked my apartment wall from ceiling to flooor), I had a pair of diamond doves in a walk-in cage with a little tree inside and large enough for them to fly in, on a small outdoor balcony. They could fly like little helicopters and were entertaining to watch and breed, like active pigeons on a small scale. However, when the male young grow up, father diamond doves will attack them and other males relentlessly, until they are removed. They could be managed with limited space but if they escape will probably, but not always, be lost.
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j0nny_l0
7 posts
Feb 21, 2007
2:24 PM
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Yea i do have a small balcony. But I'm not planning to fly the birds, lets see how long that last. I plan to just breed and keep it around. I don't think the city folks here like pigeons that very much. By they way I live in the Arden area sac_spinners. Which side of town do you live?
j0nny
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luis
190 posts
Feb 21, 2007
8:58 PM
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Hey Steve that's funny!!
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FULLTURN
24 posts
Feb 21, 2007
9:04 PM
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Jonny, Sounds like you are talking about a waffer kit box. They use them to fly portable. Over in Europe they compete with small kit boxes, some so small they can be attached to your back like a back pack. I'll see if I can find some pictures and post them or find a web site that might give you some ideas.
Ron Judd
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W@yne
277 posts
Feb 21, 2007
10:25 PM
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j0nny_l0
You're mad Lol
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j0nny_l0
8 posts
Feb 22, 2007
7:31 AM
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Some people did say that I'm crazy. And you know what I told them? Other people has parrots. What's wrong with a pair of pigeons? I bet that when someone first tried to keep parrots as pets in apartment, others said the same thing. Because some of those suckers are loud. See it doesn't sound so bad now huh? If you think about it is not that bad. Even some dogs are worse because they bark all night long.
Hey Sacspinner,
Do you have birds? If you do, do you fly? I just want to know.
Thanks,
j0nny
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Electric-man
139 posts
Feb 22, 2007
11:20 AM
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I raised a pigeon in my house in a large parrot cage for two years. I let her fly around every evening or so for 30 min to an hr and she was perfectly happy, I guess, she didn't really ever say so! LOL But when I would let her outside, you couldn't open the door cause she wanted back in. Best pet I ever had, she would still be in there but the cage cleaning was getting old! When I got my new rollers, I put her outside with them, she was scared to death of them. She sat for weeks giving me that "you bastard" look! But Spring came along and she found happiness!lol
Other than being messy, their good house pets! I would have one at the office if they would let me!LOL
Val
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Double R
1 post
Feb 22, 2007
2:54 PM
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Hey jonny_l0
I'm new to this site to and thought this might be something for you to look into. Here is a site about portable lofts. http://angelfire.com/ks/rollerpigeon/portable.html
Good Luck
Robby
Last Edited by on Feb 22, 2007 2:56 PM
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Missouri-Flyer
288 posts
Feb 22, 2007
3:28 PM
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Welcome Robby,
Hope you enjoy the most informative roller site on the internet..Jerry
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centralvalleylofts
63 posts
Feb 22, 2007
3:54 PM
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hey i knew this guy in southern california who built a small trailer that really was a camper trailer you know the little tear drop type about 12 feet long with 6 induviduals for mating and two kit boxes, he would drive it half a block down the treet and let hes birds fly.
i never knew how those birds would never fly off.but that was back in 85 or 86.hope that helps.
steve
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Double R
2 posts
Feb 22, 2007
4:59 PM
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Thanks for the welcome Jerry. I to live in S/W Missouri.
I just got into rollers in the last 6 months so I am just getting started but having fun.
Robby
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BEN the bird man
13 posts
Feb 22, 2007
5:06 PM
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I think if you where going to get a pigeon it would be best to stick with the smaller breed bacause of the space and the mess they would leave its really up to you
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parlorfancier916
250 posts
Feb 24, 2007
7:51 AM
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jonny you should try out parlor rollers they will perform right in front of you and they won't be able to fly away, I live in the oak park area, but I have my birds up north in the riolinda district. Good luck..
Doua xiong
freewebs.com/performingrollers
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Missouri-Flyer
291 posts
Feb 24, 2007
8:09 AM
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Hey Robby,
drop me a line at ropingfever at alltel dot net....Jerry
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