JMHD
149 posts
Mar 12, 2007
2:24 AM
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Here is a pair got direct from Ivan breeding this year.
Cock (03) 0315
John M.Loft(HDRC)So,Cal.
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JMHD
150 posts
Mar 12, 2007
2:29 AM
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The hen (04) 0407 Also from Ivan.
Thanks Ivan. John M.Loft(HDRC)So,Cal.
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Flyin Hawaiian
101 posts
Mar 12, 2007
3:56 AM
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Hey Johnny,
Looks like they have matured some and filled out since I sent them to you, Looking good bro.
Ivan
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Flyin Hawaiian
102 posts
Mar 12, 2007
4:04 AM
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Just a note of observation for those of you that aren't familiar with wide eye ceres. If you take alook at the birds that KGB has and Scott you will see that they covet this same trait. The birds pictured here have that trait genetically fixed with in them. Pensom said this indicates proper feathering when a bird posseses this not to heavy or thick and not to rich or dense.
Ivan
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nicksiders
1462 posts
Mar 12, 2007
5:28 AM
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Like a tightly waded up T-shirt is how a correctly feathered roller should feel like in hand. This is what I have read somewhere and it has stuck with me for 40 years. Don't know who said it; I would like to think Pensom or Smith who said it.
Has anyone read or heard the same thing? What do you think of that description?
Nick
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Snicker Rollers
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CSRA
27 posts
Mar 12, 2007
4:36 PM
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nice birds john i see u do not read your post or you would have called bye now lol
Last Edited by on Mar 12, 2007 4:37 PM
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spinner jim
60 posts
Mar 12, 2007
4:56 PM
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Nice pair of birds,i like em ,jim uk.
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W@yne
304 posts
Mar 12, 2007
11:21 PM
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There you go again JMHD taking excellent pictures as always jeez i wish i could use my camera to its full potential lol.
regards
W@yne uk
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3757
122 posts
Mar 13, 2007
6:28 AM
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John - The birds that I have from Bruce are excellent. You will have good success with the birds from Ivan. Also, the birds that you have posted look great.
Last Edited by on Feb 23, 2008 5:42 AM
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JMHD
155 posts
Mar 14, 2007
8:49 AM
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Thanks guys for the input. 3757 that is good to know. The way i heard it was Ivan got a brother to the bird you got from the Cooper line so the birds are similar or how do you see it?
Wayne it's the camera Lol. John M.Loft(HDRC)So,Cal.
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3757
123 posts
Mar 14, 2007
11:48 AM
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Wayne - I received quite a few from Bruce Cooper. Bruce is a great friend and so is Ivan. I do not know the exact bird as I started with 15 birds from Bruce. Bruce sent me 6 last year to add to my gene pool. You may be speaking of 059. He is an uncle to Ivans hen. 059 has been one of my best producers from Bruce.
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