Missouri-Flyer
351 posts
Mar 13, 2007
2:10 PM
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Wondering the effects of using meds during breeding season, and if it causes side affects in the squabs when eating from parents?..Thanks, Jerry
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Jerry
Home of "Whispering Wings Loft"
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Electric-man
165 posts
Mar 13, 2007
7:43 PM
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I hope not Jerry, I just started treatment today with mine. Have a baby in the nest with canker and an older bird with the same thing, I think. His eyes are a little watery and it looks like hes getting a buildup in his throat. So I isolated him and dosed the whole loft. Had a lot of rain lately and the floor is a little damp. Been lazy with the ACV too. Should of known better! Hope I'm doing the right thing with the 4 in 1. Got about 8 babies at the moment and should have 4 more any day.
Val
Last Edited by on Mar 13, 2007 7:45 PM
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Missouri-Flyer
352 posts
Mar 14, 2007
5:36 AM
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Well Val,
Looks like we might not get an answer. I was hoping for an answer from an experienced guy..Oh well, the worse that can happen is they die..LOL..Jerry
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Jerry
Home of "Whispering Wings Loft"
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J_Star
817 posts
Mar 14, 2007
10:32 AM
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Go see a Vet.
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Tony Chavarria
Site Publisher
1223 posts
Mar 14, 2007
10:56 AM
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I have some experience. To answer your question, if you don't treat, what might happen? Bird/s get worse and die. So side of effect of doing nothing is probable death for the bird/s.
The result of properly treating a condition in time could result in the bird living. That's a good side-effect! LOL
At worst for the youngster in the nest it might get a larger dose because of its size. So what happens? Probably nothing.
One way to avoid overdosing the squabs might be to provide the meds to the bird/s in question away from the nest. Wait an hour or two. Put the parent back into the nest where there is fresh water to drink, parent drinks water and eats food and feeds the squabs.
Do this for the period of time the bird/s need to be on the medications.
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FLY ON! Tony Chavarria
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Tony Chavarria
Site Publisher
1224 posts
Mar 14, 2007
11:17 AM
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You can use the 4 in 1 powder mixed with water for young birds with canker or try the 4 in 1 tablets or Spartrix tablets for really young birds that cannot drink on thier own or birds too far gone to drink on thier own.
Good luck!
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FLY ON! Tony Chavarria
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ArlenS
40 posts
Mar 15, 2007
10:50 AM
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Jerry,
"Medpet 4 in 1" contains Furaltadone 20% for bacteria including salmonella (paratyphoid) and e-coli, and Ronidazole (Ridzol) 7% for single-celled protozoans including Trichomonas (Canker) and Coccidia (Coccidiosis).
I used Dr. Colin Walker's excellent book "Pigeon Health Management" (that I recently purchased at the Roller-pigeon.com website store) to confirm that Ronidazole is safe for breeding pigeons, eggs, and squabs. However, it didn't mention Furaltadone. I contacted Medpet in South Africa via e-mail. Their response below indicated that their product "4 in 1" is safe for breeding pigeons, embryos, and squabs.
Dear Arlen,
I have just confirmed that the 4 in 1 Powder is safe to administer to
breeding pigeons. There should not be any risks to the embryo or squabs.
Kind regards,
Joanne van Heerden
Medpet
-----Original Message-----
From: Siert, Arlen W [mailto:Arlen.Siert@XCELENERGY.COM]
Sent: 14 March 2007 20:30
To: medpet@icon.co.za
Subject: medpet 4 in 1 powder safe for breeding pigeons?
Could you please tell me if this product is safe to administer to breeding
pigeons that are laying or feeding squabs? Are there any risks to the
embryo or squabs? Thank you. Arlen Siert
Last Edited by on Mar 15, 2007 10:50 AM
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Missouri-Flyer
354 posts
Mar 15, 2007
11:15 AM
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Thanks Arlen!
This should help other that had a similiar question...Again, thanks
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Jerry
Home of "Whispering Wings Loft"
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Electric-man
171 posts
Mar 15, 2007
12:25 PM
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I too thank you, Arlen!!!!
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fhtfire
839 posts
Mar 17, 2007
8:40 AM
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I have used meds during breeding season and it had no affect at all on the young squabs....I had a young squab that looked like it had canker....that was a couple years ago...so I treated the whole loft for canker and the everybody was just fine. So no worries....the only thing that I do not do is worm the breeders when they have squabs....worming medication is a poison...to kill the worms.....so I worm the breeders during the off season.
rock and ROLL
Paul
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Velo99
981 posts
Mar 17, 2007
5:28 PM
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I do my breeders while they are sitting eggs. No risk of side effects. If one were to time it properly the chicks could get just a taste of the meds.
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V99
Flippin`The Bird!
http://www.bluedotloft.50megs.com
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Electric-man
178 posts
Mar 18, 2007
3:07 PM
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Mine just got a six day treatment. Had eight babies, can't tell it harmed em in any way. They were from just hatched, to ready to come out of the nest All growing normal! I start the Bio Pro this afternoon! So far, so good!
Val
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sac_spinners
82 posts
Mar 18, 2007
4:07 PM
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I just use the 4 in 1 and it works great!! no harm to nothing yet, ive seen a difference in 3 days the birds look better already, thanks Tony for all the advice!!!
Chor
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chewy
10 posts
Mar 20, 2007
11:33 AM
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yeah same goes here after treating them with the med. i did not lose any young ones even so if they were just about one or two weeks old...they all seem healthy growing up just like any other youngster....now most birds seem to be all healthy..p.s..it really works..chewy....
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