W@yne
309 posts
Mar 18, 2007
3:21 AM
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Trevsta got the ball rolling on this subject so lets see your 2007 youngsters. Heres a few of mine
Ive bred my first 2 rec reds this year 1 is shown in the photos regards W@yne uk
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Steve_uk
111 posts
Mar 18, 2007
4:08 AM
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Here's mine for 2007
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W@yne
310 posts
Mar 18, 2007
5:56 AM
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Ste I thought i told yer to keep them rollers pure lmao
Last Edited by on Mar 18, 2007 5:59 AM
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Missouri-Flyer
363 posts
Mar 18, 2007
6:09 AM
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here are few that I have pics of....Just starting to fly a reasonable time..
---------- Jerry
Home of "Whispering Wings Loft"
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Velo99
985 posts
Mar 18, 2007
7:04 AM
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Kel, Sweetgum tree. You can slam those little balls on the ground and they explode seed all over the place. We had a great deal of fun doing that very thing when I was a youngster. ---------- V99 Flippin`The Bird!
http://www.bluedotloft.50megs.com
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Missouri-Flyer
364 posts
Mar 18, 2007
8:11 AM
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hey Kel, Kenny is right. It is 10 feet from the kitbox, and the only reason I haven't cut it down is because of the shade in the summer, and as Kenny stated, they make for some fun for the kids. Those things explode and sends these little seed things everywhere.I am working on a German Shepherd pup, and when she is out there with me she bites into them, then trys like hell to get the seeds out of her mouth..Kind of funny to watch..LOL.. I have trimmed it back a ton, but it keeps on sprouting more stubs next to the main base...
---------- Jerry
Home of "Whispering Wings Loft"
Last Edited by on Mar 18, 2007 8:13 AM
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Velo99
986 posts
Mar 18, 2007
9:07 AM
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---------- V99 Flippin`The Bird!
http://www.bluedotloft.50megs.com
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spinner jim
62 posts
Mar 18, 2007
12:33 PM
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Steve uk,nice fantails ,i thought you were a roller breeder lol ,Wayne nice ( proper)rollers a credit to you, jim uk.
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Steve_uk
113 posts
Mar 18, 2007
12:51 PM
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Jim your way of with fantails anyone else fancy a guess what they are? Wayne you excluded from this 1. Steve....
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roll-n-4-ever
15 posts
Mar 18, 2007
1:23 PM
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trevsta65
89 posts
Mar 18, 2007
4:48 PM
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nice looking youngens wayne the birds have been busy i see.steve are those birds doneks cheers trev.
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Missouri-Flyer
366 posts
Mar 18, 2007
5:09 PM
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My guess would be some type of Donek, or cross thereof. Nothing like I have in my loft, and I am not good at the other breeds, but that is my guess.
---------- Jerry
Home of "Whispering Wings Loft"
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W@yne
311 posts
Mar 18, 2007
11:05 PM
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Guys you have still not guest steve birds. They are not doneks or cross breeds Regards W@yne uk
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nicksiders
1480 posts
Mar 19, 2007
1:05 AM
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Danzig Highflyers?
Nick ---------- Snicker Rollers
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Bird_Man_916
10 posts
Mar 19, 2007
9:39 AM
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Here's two of my young birds...Chai...
Last Edited by on Mar 19, 2007 9:42 AM
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luis
229 posts
Mar 19, 2007
10:34 AM
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I Like the 1st one.It has the type i really dig.Good wing butt,short flights,strong chest and that S-shape up front!I like a little bigger head but that one still looks good!
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Missouri-Flyer
367 posts
Mar 19, 2007
1:38 PM
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Here are a few that were just placed on the floor..Have a few more that are about 3 days behind, but overall, very close in age..
---------- Jerry
Home of "Whispering Wings Loft"
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luis
231 posts
Mar 19, 2007
9:30 PM
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Hey Jerry,those birds aren't in the kitbox already-are they???
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W@yne
312 posts
Mar 19, 2007
11:02 PM
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Nicksiders Sorry they are not Danzig Highflyers buddy keep guessing lol. Regards W@yne
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spade_drain
59 posts
Mar 19, 2007
11:16 PM
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hey let me guess...
is it continental roller? i remember continental roller are booted or have feather on their leg...just wanna give it a shot late'R
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W@yne
313 posts
Mar 19, 2007
11:26 PM
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Spade drain Sorry its not continental roller also. A clue guys these birds will put up a show for you to watch. They are performing birds in their own right. Regards W@yne uk
Last Edited by on Mar 19, 2007 11:28 PM
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luis
233 posts
Mar 19, 2007
11:31 PM
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On Steves birds,my wild guess is...Dutch Tumblers?
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Missouri-Flyer
377 posts
Mar 20, 2007
3:06 AM
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Luis, No I placed them on the floor of the breeding loft until I see them eating, then it's off to the kitbox..usually a few days does it.
---------- Jerry
Home of "Whispering Wings Loft"
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W@yne
314 posts
Mar 20, 2007
2:07 PM
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luis On Steves birds still wrong buddy lol
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Velo99
997 posts
Mar 20, 2007
2:11 PM
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Is it the Macclesburgshireville something tumbler?
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---------- V99 Flippin`The Bird!
http://www.bluedotloft.50megs.com
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W@yne
315 posts
Mar 20, 2007
11:04 PM
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Kenny on Steves birds wrong buddy im afraid lol
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Missouri-Flyer
389 posts
Mar 21, 2007
6:12 AM
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are they a crossbreed or not?
---------- Jerry
Home of "Whispering Wings Loft"
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Santandercol
893 posts
Mar 21, 2007
7:44 AM
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Uncle on Steve_uk's breed. ---------- Kelly
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Missouri-Flyer
391 posts
Mar 21, 2007
8:56 AM
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Ok, Time to speak up about those birds, as they are obviously nothing that has been seen by the Birmingham Roller guys here, which is why the answer hasn't been stated.
---------- Jerry
Home of "Whispering Wings Loft"
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W@yne
316 posts
Mar 21, 2007
12:23 PM
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Ok guys seeing as Steves not around to answer his guess who question the answer to the unknown birds.They are called kelebeks a breed from Turkey these birds so i am told can fly loop the loop ,cork screw,dive they are acrobats in their own right. Look um up in google for info. regards W@yne uk
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smokey
133 posts
Mar 21, 2007
1:27 PM
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shoot i was thinking FOR,s. smokey
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luis
238 posts
Mar 21, 2007
2:32 PM
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Howdy Steve!Do these birds kit or are they solo performers??
Last Edited by on Mar 21, 2007 2:33 PM
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Steve_uk
118 posts
Mar 21, 2007
2:34 PM
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They dont tight kit like rollers they are flying seperate doing there own acrobatics.
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washington86
96 posts
Mar 24, 2007
2:51 PM
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my 07's
Last Edited by on Mar 24, 2007 2:52 PM
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MILO
261 posts
Mar 25, 2007
9:51 AM
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Hi guys.
I found it interesting how Jerry does things. I like to work real close with squeaks, and get them ready early. I am big on control, so the earlier I can get them on their own the better. I think the youngsters he has posted, in the pic where they are on the floor are almost of age. some may think it is too early. What are some of the things you guys do to get them eating and trained to the kitbox? I would be interested to hear.
c
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lil_jess
26 posts
Mar 25, 2007
11:45 AM
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here's some of mine... still young...
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parlorfancier916
280 posts
Mar 25, 2007
1:31 PM
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well let's see what comes out next month, all mine are on eggs and had been put on 4 in 1 so they should be hatching soon...
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Missouri-Flyer
408 posts
Mar 25, 2007
1:33 PM
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Howdy Milo, I used to be one of those guys that left the young in the nest until they were old enough to basically fly out of it on their own. I found that by raising them that way that they were usually later taking to the wing after placed in the kitbox. 2 years ago I decided that I was going to get them in the kitbox sooner, on the wing sooner, and see if that made any difference as to the way they flew,performed,etc..This being my 3rd year of doing it the newer, younger way I have found personally that my birds are more mature at an earlier age. I have read on here many times about guys young birds that wouldn't get off the roof, or at best go from roof to roof..I NEVER have that problem by removing them from the nest early, and getting them to the kitbox sooner....As you stated, some may let theirs remain in the nest longer, but this is just what works for me....
---------- Jerry
Home of "Whispering Wings Loft"
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gotspin7
35 posts
Mar 25, 2007
3:19 PM
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real nice looking youngsters guys!! keep them rolling
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CSRA
56 posts
Mar 26, 2007
8:00 AM
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those are some nice youngsters
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ArlenS
45 posts
Mar 26, 2007
10:23 AM
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Jerry,
How young are they when you put them on the kit box floor? Thanks.
Last Edited by on Mar 26, 2007 10:24 AM
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Missouri-Flyer
411 posts
Mar 27, 2007
3:25 AM
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Arlen, As far as age goes, that all depends. I watch more for signs of them eating and drinking than age. I usually place them in the kitbox 2 or 3 days after I see them pecking at the food tray, and when they are placed into the kitbox, I dunk their head in the water the first minute or so they are placed in there. That usually gives them an idea on where to look for water when they get thirsty. I have had to replace a squeek now and then back onto the breeding loft floor so the parents could feed them, then back into the kitbox, but it's rare.
The picture of the squeeks lined up on here from Lil-Jess is about the right age for me. The ones above that from Washington should be trap trained and hovering above the loft by that age....Just my technics....
---------- Jerry
Home of "Whispering Wings Loft"
Last Edited by on Mar 27, 2007 3:25 AM
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Velo99
1008 posts
Mar 27, 2007
4:49 PM
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Milo, I like to throw a little seed in the nest box when the chicks start standing up and pecking at me when I stick my hand in the box. When I see some pecking behavior I will put them on the floor on the breeder loft.The cock will still feed them at this point. When I see them pecking around on the floor and exploring the feeder I will move them to the foster side with the other weaners.I have 6 cockbirds who will feed 14 chicks for a while. As they get bigger they can`t keep up and the chicks have to fend for them selves when the cockbirds finally just give up and fly back to the boxes. Looks like 17 chicks in groups of 6,10-12 days apart. One hen laid one egg. She had laid 8 eggs,and raised a pair in 10 weeks without missing til this round. I think she`ll be just fine. I did have a 00 cockbird come up dry. First time in the breeder box. He was in the foster pen so I never checked his eggs. :)
One other thing, I whistle/rattle the can at the breeders and fosters when I feed. The chicks respond well to it when they are on the floor. They associate it to being fed within 3-4 minutes of hearing it. I watch them stand up on the nest and peep when I whistle at them.
When I move them to the foster pen I also start sitting them on the landing board of the kitbox while the kit is out. They will explore the area look thru the trap. I will set them inside the kitbox on the floor and let them explore. Put a few seeds in the tray etc. I also put a ramp up to the kitbox and release one a few feet away so he can see the other birds sitting in the doorway. Usually runs right back into the kitbox. I call this pretrap training. By the end of the 5-7 days in on the floor in the foster pen and this training they are ready when I move them over. When they can just fly a little I will take them across the yard 10 yards or so and kinda toss him at the kitbox. Usually they get the idea and land on the kitbox.
By this time the bird has been all over the kitbox for two weeks. If he don`t get it by then he is a dummy and most likely a cull. From there I will go as far as I can in the yard and then across the fence. Usually at this point they will begin to make rounds and start flying. Couple this with a few hours a day of cage time every day and a little feed control, I seldom lose a bird.
V99 Flippin`The Bird!
http://www.bluedotloft.50megs.com
Last Edited by on Mar 27, 2007 4:52 PM
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parlorfancier916
286 posts
Apr 01, 2007
12:34 PM
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CHAI YOU USED TO BREAKDANCE RIGHT?
OH YEA ALMOST FORGOT... (BIRMINGHAMROLLERS)
(PARLORROLLERS)
NOT THE VERY BEST PICTURES BUT I HOPE YOU LIKE THEM..
MANY MORE STILL IN THE NESTS and eggs
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Santandercol
928 posts
Apr 01, 2007
1:05 PM
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Milo, I put the squeaks in the kitbox at 3 weeks on the dot and they won't eat for a day or so but they figure it out pretty quick.If there aren't any young in there already eating I'll put an old hen in there for a couple of days to teach them.Their growth slows down a bit at first but by the end of the first week they are putting on weight pretty good. ---------- Kelly
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RussianRoller
9 posts
Apr 02, 2007
10:46 AM
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Hi, Steve_uk do you have pictures of your muffed Birmingham Rollers? Also parlorfancier916 do you have any pictures of your Parlor Rollers? RussianRoller@hotmail.com
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W@yne
331 posts
Apr 02, 2007
12:47 PM
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RussianRoller Steve does not have muffed rollers they are Turkish kelebeks. Regards W@yne uk ---------- Patience. Perseverance. Perfection.
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Missouri-Flyer
427 posts
Apr 02, 2007
1:35 PM
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Kenny, are these birds rolling yet?..LOL..
---------- Jerry
Home of "Whispering Wings Loft"
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