luis
241 posts
Mar 21, 2007
8:49 PM
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Hey george,would you by any chance be able to tell me where this hen came from(what strain).This bird has your band.It's an 04' 605rc 1065 black oddside,you must have bred her while you were still living here.I've been trying to get a hold of Fernando w/no luck.Check her out,she's nice & fat from having feed in front of her 24/7.Thanks in advance for your help.
Last Edited by on Mar 22, 2007 2:59 AM
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George Ruiz
214 posts
Mar 22, 2007
8:42 PM
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Luis that bird flew in my number one kit for a year and a half. she rolled anywhere from 5 ft to 30 ft with good style and velocity
she is from my old family of Bob Scott birds I only have one pair of birds that go back to that family,
George
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luis
244 posts
Mar 22, 2007
8:53 PM
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Thank you very much George.I appreciate the info.I have a couple of unknowns that came from Fernandos house(most likely)and i've been trying to get a hold of him so that i can track the birds background.Just want to get my records straight so i don't cross them incorrectly.I have a cock i'm going to put on her in about a month.I've gotten 4 rounds out of her w/her present mate and want to change it up to see the difference in offspring.
By the way you say you only have 2 birds that go back to this family.Did you find this strain inadequate.
Again thanks for the quick response.
Last Edited by on Mar 22, 2007 11:51 PM
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George Ruiz
217 posts
Mar 23, 2007
6:41 PM
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Luis
the reason i got rid of all my old line of birds was that after six months they are hard to keep flying at a decent hight.
they tend to be fast flyers and high flyers and lack the frequency and consistency that a family needs to win a major fly.
They do come into the roll between 3 to 5 months but you need to feed them less and no corn after that or they will fly very high.
I flew them for 5 years and I tried everything to make them better . I dont claim to be the best trainer or know everything but after spending lots of time going to fly's I knew that they were just not the kind of stock that would push me to the next level.
also the % of stock birds was low, with my new family it is way higher ( stock % ).
good luck
George
Last Edited by on Mar 23, 2007 6:44 PM
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luis
246 posts
Mar 23, 2007
9:31 PM
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I'm having similar issues w/mine and its a bit frustrating.I love the type on these birds and hope i'm not wasting my time w/this strain!From what you have told me i'm begining to wonder.What family do you fly now George?I hope to compete w/the SGVS in the next month or 2.Thanks for the info.
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George Ruiz
219 posts
Mar 24, 2007
10:13 AM
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Luis
hit me on my cell # 702-982-2651
George
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George R.
875 posts
Jul 10, 2008
3:33 PM
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nice hen
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7001
53 posts
Jul 10, 2008
7:39 PM
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George,
what are the birds band #s that goes back to Bob, I have all his record books. If you don't mind?
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J_Star
1654 posts
Jul 11, 2008
6:47 AM
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George and Luis, I know it is frustrating when your birds start to fly high and when you think you tried everything possible to bring them down to a viewable and judge-able distance. It is 100% the trainer fault not the birds. I assure you that.
The reason they became seldom and fast flyers is the fact that they became extremely fit and soon an overfly will flow afterward if the birds were not kept in check and their flight pattern corrected.
Figure out how to get your birds to respond. That is the challenge…Any body can open the kit box door and fly birds but to figure out how to fly them properly is another ball game. That is what distinguishes fanciers into different categories. Otherwise, you will end up changing families like we change shoes. And blame families of not worth having due to our lack of expertise. Good luck.
Jay
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J_Star
1655 posts
Jul 11, 2008
6:54 AM
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George and Luis, my last post sounds like criticism which it is but I also like to provide you with an answer to your issue in the hopes it will help you get the upper hand and for you to enjoy your birds better.
Here is a recipe for you to mix and feed your birds. You need to try it for 7 to 10 days before you see the effect of this feed. Then judge their flight pattern and distance. The duration of the flight depends on how much you are giving them to eat, so adjust the measurement as you see fit.
Remember that when you feed you need to adjust the feeding a little since the pellets digest quicker. You will figure out how much to adjust when you start feeding them depending of their flight time.
With this recipe your birds will fly at a correct height and stay active for you to enjoy them. After 10 days, please post back how it worked out for you.
Jay
Last Edited by on Jul 14, 2008 5:50 AM
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birdman
615 posts
Jul 11, 2008
7:10 AM
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Jay, There are a some good families of birds that have the characteristic of low, slow flying without having to resort to extreme feed manipulation.
I'll take the low flying family any day over trying to figure out how to keep the reins on a high flying family.
Been there, done that.
Russ
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J_Star
1656 posts
Jul 11, 2008
7:57 AM
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There are disadvantages for both. The low flying spells disaster. The high flying spells overfly.
Jay
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George R.
886 posts
Jul 11, 2008
3:44 PM
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Mix 2 cups of Wheat (Yellow Wheat not Red), 1 cup of Milo, ¾ cup of Canadian or Austrian Peas, ¾ cup of pigeon Pellets, ½ cup Safflower, and a pinch of Millet (1 tablespoon of Canary seed). Mix enough for 10 days supply.
J star if I would have fed them like the way you said they would have gone to the Moon.
Thanks for the advise but am Currently working with a diiferent Family of Birds ,
I like the new Family since I dont have to starve them down to beaks and nails just to be able to enjoy them( spin , low altitude,)
The Novice
George
Last Edited by on Jul 11, 2008 4:16 PM
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