washington86
97 posts
Mar 25, 2007
7:52 PM
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Hi guys, i've got this problem before.. One of my egg just hatch last week, and when i came and look at it..it look like it's just 3 days old. i dont know why? The baby havent grown that much at all while my other babies which are 4 days old are bigger than the last week baby. Last time I had this and it died. Does this has to do something with its health. Do you guys think this baby might make it. It looks like it's a MIDGET. I feed my breeders with Milo, Peas, and other seeds. All my other babies are doing fine except this one. I hope it grow in a week or too. What happen if this baby dont mature at week 3?
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lil_jess
27 posts
Mar 25, 2007
8:27 PM
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i think it is the feed, maybe the peas and others seed are too big for a small small throat baby, i used pigeon pellet or any other pellets for the parents to feed the baby.
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ROLLERMAN
96 posts
Mar 25, 2007
8:55 PM
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at 3 and 4 days old the young are feed pigeon milk from both the cock and the hen not pigeon feed. if that bird has a nest mate what is the size of it, has the bird got a full crop. he may be a runt, or the parents may not be feeding it too.
al
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Santandercol
906 posts
Mar 25, 2007
9:33 PM
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Sometimes the hen will start incubating the 1st egg as soon as she lays it,giving the first chick to hatch a 24-48 hour jump on the 2nd one to hatch.That's all it takes for the first chick to get stronger thus it will get fed more.Just my thoughts on what the problem could be.
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Kelly
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washington86
98 posts
Mar 25, 2007
9:53 PM
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Yes, i blieve you guys too. I believe pellet is a good source of food for the youngs because it gets soften easier. But in my case it's differnt. Both of the parents are feeding it, but it doesnt seem to go. Yes, the parents are feeding them with SO CALL MILK. Have u guys ever experince this before. this little guys is not growing although it's felled up.
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sac_spinners
95 posts
Mar 25, 2007
9:54 PM
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I think that the parents are not feeding him so well, if they are eating the same stuff and it doesn't grow as fast i think its the parents thats not doing there part
Chor
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washington86
100 posts
Mar 25, 2007
9:57 PM
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i believe u too Chor...I havent seen the parents feeding him, but the sac is always full when i look at it. maybe the bird is a slow growing roller.
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gotspin7
44 posts
Mar 26, 2007
4:51 AM
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one of the feeds that I use is pellets it just seems that all the babys grow up faster! I used to have problems like that with feedin grain, just my taughts hope it helps! keep them flying!
Sal
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Santandercol
914 posts
Mar 27, 2007
7:38 PM
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Got 2 racers about 12 days old.One was 1/2 the size of the other and his crop was darn near empty last night so I soaked some mixed grain and stuffed it down his throat by hand.Did it again this morning and when I came home from work went to feed him again and his crop was already full from the parents.Seems like only feeding him twice really helped him to pick up some strength.The maple peas helped to fill him fast but I did give him a good mix.
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Kelly
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CSRA
80 posts
Mar 27, 2007
7:43 PM
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the bird just could be runt or maybe a results from worms
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Otis
11 posts
Mar 28, 2007
6:26 AM
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Then why don't they both have worms or show runtness??
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Missouri-Flyer
413 posts
Mar 28, 2007
6:45 AM
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as Otis stated, it is a case of the 1st egg being laid a day or 2 earlier than the other, making the 2nd squab fight twice as hard for food. Therefore, being the latter one born, is of course the smaller, weaker baby.
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Jerry
Home of "Whispering Wings Loft"
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ROLLERMAN
97 posts
Mar 28, 2007
6:49 AM
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we all have had this happen to us. For what ever reason it happens, If one young gets just a 24 hour head start the chance of the 2nd hatched maybe has a one in ten chance of makeing it. If you cant hand feed it or foster it out, Cull it. More then likely going to end up crap any way with all the problems it,s had
AL
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Shaun
459 posts
Mar 28, 2007
11:49 AM
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I experienced this very thing last week. I'd seen a second bird hatch a full two days after the first - that in itself was a surprise as mother hen was experienced, so I wouldn't have expected her to sit the first egg rather than just squat over it, awaiting the second. Anyway, I watched for a week or so and observed the first hatched bird grow dramatically in comparison to the second. There was something of an irony in that the weaker and much smaller bird - being deprived of food by the bigger one - used that large nestmate for warmth, when the parents were negligent in their nest duties during a very cold spell.
After a week or so, I hand-fed the weeny one and kept it indoors. I even had the central heating on all night to keep it warm, as it was freezing outside. I did the squirty stuff down its gob a few times a day and it seemed to be responding. However, I think when they get this far down the line, deprived of food too early in life, their internal organs are shot and it's difficult to bring them back from the brink. Despite a brave struggle, mine died after a couple of days of hand-feeding.
Shaun
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DeepSpinLofts
12 posts
Mar 28, 2007
4:12 PM
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I've had the small runt roller problem before.... and thought the young bird would die because it's nestmate was 2 days older and a heck of a lot bigger from being well fed by its parents.
Found a way to fix it though. I was fortunate that I had another pair with only one squab in the nest about the same age as my small runty roller. So I took the small runty baby out of the nest box and switched it with the other baby (single hatchling) which was roughly about the same age.
The runty roller grew out to be a yellow badge - white flight 15ft spinner. She was the fastest color bird I've ever bred. If you have a pair with a single hatchling then you might want to try the switcheroo.
Good luck...
Marcus
Deep Spin Lofts
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Velo99
1011 posts
Mar 29, 2007
4:45 AM
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Guys,
I think it was BMC who said the easiest way to cure the big/little problem is to pull the big chick out before you feed.
I just put mine in the pocket of my hoodie. Carry him around for 20-30 minutes,checking on the little guy occasionally. When I see his little crop filled I will put the other chick back in with him. Usually after three or four days,especially if you get him twice a day, the problem will be solved. Sooner the better. I don`t like to handle my chicks for 3 days after they hatch. Just my thing.
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V99
Flippin`The Bird!
http://www.bluedotloft.50megs.com
Last Edited by on Mar 29, 2007 4:47 AM
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J_Star
831 posts
Mar 29, 2007
8:06 AM
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I try not to intervene much with the squeakers when it comes to size. I noticed that the much smaller one will develop a persistent and effective method to get food from the parents. Sooner or later the smaller sized squeaker will grow and hold his/her own. I watch now that those you guys call “runts” hold their own at the feed tray and get their fair share but they are smaller in size. If those small sized “runts” turn out to be for you an outstanding roller, then breed it and you will bring the size down in your rollers. This is just my way of doing things.
Jay
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fhtfire
868 posts
Mar 29, 2007
5:34 PM
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I have had this happen with some of my younger pairs...I have no problem switching babies around if I have to. I have had a couple of my older stronger parents raise three young with ease....It does happen from time to time.
rock and ROLL
Paul
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