tapp
229 posts
Mar 28, 2007
5:58 PM
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When some one says I'll give them some hard fly time, Or serious Fly time before a compition. Just what is meant by that. Is it feeding more so they stay up longer? Flying more than once a day? I know you have to adjust flying by the condition there in. But what is meant by hard fly time, or serious fly time?---------
Tapp
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CSRA
83 posts
Mar 28, 2007
6:01 PM
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flying them more than usual 1-2 times daily
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longarm
97 posts
Mar 28, 2007
6:54 PM
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When I fly my young birds "hard" I mean putting them up 2-3 times a day. My thery is that as they develop the stamina to push that hard They build a better condition so when they are cut back as they age they have more energy and want to work harder. I also weed out many of the stability issues in that time. A bird that is going to be unstable will show it more as it gets tired. By unstable I am includeing not only roll downs but birds that fall apart in the roll and lag in the kit. Many of the problems that plaged me in older kits show and are easly culled by putting the young bird through a few months of hard flying. I use this on my family but have been told that that kind of flying will put others under the table or stiffen the kit so as always it takes some experimintation and advice from those with your family to decide if tyhat works for your birds. c.j.
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fhtfire
866 posts
Mar 28, 2007
8:38 PM
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Tapp,
When I fly my birds hard before a comp...I basically fly them every day about two weeks before a comp...I only rest them in the two week period if they start getting to light on me...work schedule or just plain bad weather....I don't fly my birds twice a day to prepare for a comp....or they will get TOO strong on me....There is usually a couple days rest here and there in the two week period...the birds dictate there fly time...that is why we say..PAY ATTENTION TO YOUR BIRDS..they will talk to you...tell you when they need rest or not.
rock and ROLL
paul
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CSRA
90 posts
Mar 28, 2007
8:41 PM
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fhtfire sounds good to me that works!
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MCCORMICKLOFTS
1288 posts
Mar 28, 2007
10:06 PM
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I'd never fly a comp kit twice a day, one sure way to ruin a kit quick. If I make the comment of flying them hard before a competition, I am implying that they have reached a point in their conditioning where I have them ready to be pushed just past the limit, where they start to rag out and won't fly very long, the final steps of tearing them down. Rest afterwards coupled with the bringing them down to the point of exhaustion will put them in good form for the next few flys. When I fly them Hard, they are on one tablespoon of wheat per bird, many fed individually to insure that get that amount and only that amount. Flying them hard is meant to set up final condition and to make sure they have cut off the fat. It also helps to stress their minds a little. Stress and the roll are connected.
Brian.
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motherlodelofts
1648 posts
Mar 28, 2007
10:54 PM
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Tapp ,Brian pretty well hit it, when I speak of hard fly time , it is my oldbirds , flying these hard would be like 4-5 days straight without a break , what I am doing is pulling excess wt. off of them and knocking the cockyness out of the cocks.
It is usualy for condition and I just did it last week as they just really needed it due to too much slack time , I pulled them back before dropping them over the edge though .
I have them on a more even keel now due to it and I am back to flying them every third day or so , and they will be much easier to set up for fly day in a month.
Scott
Last Edited by on Mar 28, 2007 10:58 PM
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tapp
231 posts
Mar 29, 2007
10:20 AM
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That's what I wanted to know. Thanks for taking the time to explain Guys!
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Tapp
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