Flyin Hawaiian
164 posts
Apr 25, 2007
3:55 AM
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Hey Guys here's something I wrote a couple of years ago. Some food for thought.
Many regions are flying there prelim qualifiers and have already prepped and selected thier kits for comp. I thought I would share with you some of my findings and observations by viewing others displeasures as well as pleasures. Last year during the fall fly we viewed John Mc kiernans kit of rollers. He flew his holdover kit and socred fairly well enough to capture 2nd place with a 350 pt kit. He than later put out a young bird kit that was bred earlier in the year. This kit had some fast and frequent 10 to 15 ft rollers in it. They flew under the previous old bird kit for quite sometime as the old birds went up into the stratsophere for height. Ken Easley was judging and the young bird kit was just flown for an exhibition to kill sometime. I said as well as Ken E that he should have combined the best youngster's that have the ability to handle a furious hard rolling kit of birds from the old bird kit and he would have racked up a better score by doing so. When you as a person gets older it takes the company of younger people to stimulate you and energize you. If you hang with only older folks you become much like they are slow and methodical. Same can be applied to a combined effort of youth that have the ability to energize your older birds which may have gone flat. The key to roller kits is to find out what energizes them over the period of 20 minutes of judging time. I said last year that I had seprated sexes and house them seperately but flew them together. The key to making this work is by having them mate up previous to the seperation for at least a 3 mo tenure. We cannot always be fortunate enough to catch our birds in the optimun window of rolling frenzy when the fly's have been scheduled. Frustrating as it may seem no matter what kind of manipulation we try we cannot push mother nature in a postive direction when she holds all the aces in her hand. This is when we must try and select by using other means in order to capitlize on it. Knowing your family of birds is an important thing to obtaining a positive result. Young birds have to be flown seperately leading up to the fly day scheduled. Many do not trust thier behaviour because they have a mind of thier own at times. The best way to achieve a combined effort is by flying the younger birds everyday as they can't handle to much rest days or they will not stick to the kit. I blame this on to much bottled up youth and hormones so to speak. If you fly them this way and than add them to the old bird team the results you get will be breath taking for frequency. Now if this is coupled with conducive flying conditions you will be in for a treat. Never pull down the young birds to manipulate them to roll. They will roll irregardless as to what you do when they hit that development stage of roll happiness. This may be old for some of you guys but maybe it can shed some light as to an alternative to those struggling with not knowing how to get them to roll (Old Birds) by applying some of these basics. Good luck to all of you that will be flying in the coming weeks.
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MCCORMICKLOFTS
1341 posts
Apr 25, 2007
10:18 AM
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A Red Bull in the water and a stuff Barney animal in the kit box the day before works just as good Ivan....lol
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Ballrollers
772 posts
Apr 25, 2007
2:12 PM
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Sage counsel, Ivan. I fly in three weeks and finding that magic combination of cocks and hens; young birds and old bird is exactly the process I find myself in at the moment. I take it you are considering yearlings as young birds in this discussion, correct?
YITS,
Cliff
Last Edited by on Apr 25, 2007 2:15 PM
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Flyin Hawaiian
166 posts
Apr 25, 2007
4:01 PM
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Hey BMC,
LMAO and don't for get the rubber ducky in the bath pan LOL
Cliff yeah thats what I'm refferring to. Your flying the same time I am around the 15th next month right? Good luck to you and give the mentors a run for the money LOL!
Your friend Ivan
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Velo99
1065 posts
Apr 25, 2007
5:14 PM
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Honey tea and a balloon 2 hours prior to.
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V99
Flippin`The Bird!
http://www.bluedotloft.50megs.com
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