Dark Roll
11 posts
May 13, 2007
2:50 PM
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Has anyone heard of Doug Tharp's website, Zbestrollerlofts? I E-mailed him a few days ago and never received a response.
Last Edited by on May 13, 2007 6:39 PM
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motherlodelofts
1775 posts
May 13, 2007
5:28 PM
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Basicly he is saying that they are duel purpose (show/performance)
He obviously has little or no experiance with performance pigeons , he is just there to take peoples money.
Scott
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JMUrbon
255 posts
May 13, 2007
5:45 PM
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What I will tell you is that if you are interested in his birds then go ahead and get yourself some of them. More than likely you will not be happy with them if you are looking for performance based birds. If you want pretty birds then you may be happy with them. Now with that being said I think that if you are interested in getting some nice rollers then take a look at the NBRC auction that is going on at this time and also The owner of this site Tony and his Ruby rollers. I would also encourage you to get out and look at some of the fliers in your area. Pretty birds make just as many guys happy as true hard spinners do. It just depends on what you are looking for. Just dont expect to get yourself some barn burning rollers from a site that is based around the colors of the birds. JMHO. Joe Urbon
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J.M.Urbon Lofts
A Proven Family of Spinners
http://www.freewebs.com/jmurbonlofts/
Last Edited by on May 13, 2007 5:46 PM
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spinner jim
100 posts
May 14, 2007
3:21 AM
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JOE, here we go again colour-roll-performance i think you are getting a bit confused,who says pretty birds dont roll ??who says all coloured birds are crosses,dont tar every-one with the same brush lol,i have eye catching birds here but i can tell you they roll,i am not a competition flyer so some of my birds would not measure up to some of the top flyers but other brs i have here can really drop when fit ,but i keep birds that are pleasant to the eye wheres the wrong in that ?,i have visited a few comp flyers over the years and the birds i have with a bit of work put into them would compete admirably if we had competition in my area to go for but we have not so i fly and breed for pleasure,you have to stay focused on what you want out of the hobby i have had rollers since i was a kid (40 years) i try and encourage new people to come in to the hobby when ever i can even giving away birds to start them off,but if new people read some of the posts in here about mongrels and colour pigeons what are they to think,just me moaning lol,i feel better now,JIM uk.
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Spud
108 posts
May 14, 2007
4:37 AM
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The point wasnt' so much about color as about show quality.
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knaylor
481 posts
May 14, 2007
8:41 AM
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Jim, I dont know whos posyt you read but it wasnt Joe's. His first sentence was telling the guy if he liked the guys birds then go get them. All he said is if he was looking for performance bases birds then he wouldnt be happy. Look at the website and you can see tha tthe guy is not breeding by performance. Why so defensive???LOL
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MILO
335 posts
May 14, 2007
9:55 AM
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Hi guys.
I don't really want to add fuel to the fire, but I know I will...LOL I took a quick look at that site, and I say quick because any roller man with a little experience can see almost instantly that this dude knows nothing about performance. He even explains Rollers performance in "Roller pigeons have gotten their name from their tumbling skills." This in itself irritates me. Hmm, and his logo is a yellow oriental roller. I mean, c'mon guys. Lets call it what it is and try not to get our feelings hurt.
c
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Velo99
1095 posts
May 14, 2007
2:50 PM
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"Run Away! Run Away!
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V99
Flippin`The Bird!
http://www.bluedotloft.50megs.com
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JMUrbon
256 posts
May 14, 2007
3:37 PM
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Jim, Like Kevin stated I think that you should go back and read my post. I really dont care what somebody elses birds look like what I was trying to say is if you are looking for birds for competion then go to a competitor to get them if you are looking for show birds or birds bred for a particular color then go to a breeder that breeds for that but all to often I hear of some poor beginner that fell into the trap due basically to his ignorance on the breed of rollers and ends up complaining that so and sos birds are crap and cant roll a hoot when all he needed to do was take a look at the whole picture and he would have been able to tell that they werent bred for the roll but rather for the color. They may have been the perfect bird color wise but that does not make them the perfect roller like some will lead a beginner to believe. Joe
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J.M.Urbon Lofts
A Proven Family of Spinners
http://www.freewebs.com/jmurbonlofts/
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kcfirl
99 posts
May 14, 2007
4:33 PM
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I wouldn't buy birds from this guy fro any reason. Not fopr performance and not for show. they're not show rollers, they're not performance bred. What are they?
I agree with Velo - run.
He says they are excellent performers, "some have even flown 3 hours".
Doesn't that say it all?
Firl
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fhtfire
952 posts
May 14, 2007
9:59 PM
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Somebody call Scott a sissy...so I can say that he is a sissy...I need more posts...I want that damn hat!!
rock and ROLL
Paul
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Santandercol
1075 posts
May 14, 2007
10:17 PM
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Paul,
You gotta stop spending so much time fightin' fires.if ya want a hat.I came here to this site well after you and look,,,,a thousand something in a year. just gotta be more fulla sh-t and tell more lies on here.You'll still qualify.----------
Kelly
Last Edited by on May 14, 2007 10:18 PM
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fhtfire
953 posts
May 14, 2007
10:24 PM
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Yeah....I know.....LOL!!! Not my fault...My wife grounded me from the computer....LOL!!! To much time with birds and not her...LOL!!! Like Scott says...the truth is I stole her earings!! LOL!! That made her mad...she told me if she put feathers on her body would I stare at her...I said...well...if you did some back flips too..with excellent quality and depth...then for sure I would stock her...that did not go over to well
rock and ROLL
Paul
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Santandercol
1076 posts
May 14, 2007
10:36 PM
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LOLOLOLOL.Ya gotta fight fire with fire,EH?~!!
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Kelly
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W@yne
411 posts
May 14, 2007
11:05 PM
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Fhtfire
Lol thats funny but your right on there lol.
My wife once said to me when i first started with pigeons after my first season pairing up after checking each nest bowl day after day lol i came running out of my loft up the garden path into the house to the wife and kids
I couldn't wait to tell all the family big grin on my face i had found i had my first young in the nest.
My wife stood there startled in amazement and said to me you wasn't that excited when our three kids was born. This is what pigeons do to you Lol.
Jim
Like Joe stated if you want to compete at the highest level in this roller game this guy is a complete no no look at this guys website Jim google his name look then run like hell. This guys birds has never seen a judge on his property hes what i call a feather merchant.
Regards
W@yne uk
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Patience Perseverance Perfection
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Last Edited by on May 14, 2007 11:11 PM
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motherlodelofts
1776 posts
May 15, 2007
5:13 AM
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Ah the wifes, just before leaving on my 9 day judging journy I made the wife go out the loft just one more time "to go over things" (like she has never done it before).
When I was done with the details I reminded her how important they were to me ,she then then asked if they were as important than her.
I thought for a second and the only thing I could say was "lets not let em die and find out" .
And not to Paul and his pirate earrings "naw" to early , got get ready, after nearly 16 years of self employment I had to get a job , first day today.
Scott
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Outlaw Vizsla
47 posts
May 15, 2007
5:38 AM
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HAHA Paul got grounded, LOL!!! At least I have an excuse...my wife keeps me handcuffed to the bed ;)
seriously...run like heck and then go talk to the likes of Scott, Paul, Joe, etc these guys know what they are talking about and wont steer you wrong.
Matt
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Outlaw Vizsla
48 posts
May 15, 2007
5:39 AM
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Oh yea Paul....I only have 952 more posts for that Hat...I really need to ask more questions!
Matt
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W@yne
415 posts
May 16, 2007
12:52 AM
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Scotty
Wife's what would we do without em Lol.
Good luck in yer new job i bet you was nervous after all that time working for yourself buddy.
Regards
W@yne uk
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Patience Perseverance Perfection
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J_Star
872 posts
May 16, 2007
6:14 AM
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If the wives only know how to go to Roller-Pigeon.com and read some posts. We be building our own dog houses in the backyard instead of kitboxes (lol).
Jay
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MCCORMICKLOFTS
1381 posts
May 16, 2007
10:23 AM
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Jay, for the men with no spine, sure. For the rest who will remind his spouse where that rib came from, the house is his castle.
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J_Star
875 posts
May 16, 2007
10:31 AM
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BMC,
You sound like a Middle Eastern (lol). Here in the USA, they rule. No ifs or buts about it (lol). If they don't, they sure know how to make our lives misrable!!! (lol)
Jay
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Electric-man
299 posts
May 16, 2007
11:00 AM
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Brian, you must be single! LOL
Q: Do you know what you tell a woman with two black eyes?
A: Nothing, she's done been told twice!
Val
Last Edited by on May 16, 2007 11:06 AM
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MCCORMICKLOFTS
1382 posts
May 16, 2007
11:14 AM
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No Val, not single. I am king in my castle. She understands that is respected for it. If your name is on that deed, only a Judge should be able to evict you. Jay the reason it appears that way here in the USA, is because of all the spineless, balless husbands who cave to the scorned spouses because they are afraid to lose their cock warmer, or simply are ignorant about what they want in life and how to deal with domestic adversities. It was Adam and Eve, not Eve and Adam. Buck up troop!..lol
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Electric-man
300 posts
May 16, 2007
11:36 AM
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In other words, your wealthier than shit then!
Not meaning any disrespect but your not exactly pulling any punches there yourself!
Val
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MCCORMICKLOFTS
1383 posts
May 16, 2007
11:51 AM
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Pulling punches?
Nope, not wealthy at all.
Do you have a point?
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ROLLERMAN
128 posts
May 16, 2007
12:02 PM
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There just like your rollers. You have to start traning them early, Dont want them to get bad habits. lol
al
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W@yne
421 posts
May 16, 2007
12:19 PM
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Brian
Back in England you would be called a male chauvinist pig for talking like that about yer wives.
Although i know where your coming from.
Just that shes bigger than me and i'm scared of her.
Lol.
Regards
W@yne uk
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J_Star
876 posts
May 16, 2007
12:20 PM
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Brain,
You are the man!!! I agree with you 100%. The law caters toward them not us. It is that simple.
Jay
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Electric-man
301 posts
May 16, 2007
12:22 PM
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Nope, don't have an inferiority complex either! I think most of the guys here would rather joke about their relationships with their wives and risk sounding like pusses and keep the conversation on the lighter side than try to prove to the world that their nut sack is the size of Wisconsin and risk damaging friendships here!
You've got a gift of humor, I've seen you being hilarious at times, why not use it? Life hard, I come here to learn and hopefully have a laugh or two!
Sorry to the rest of you guys, this conversation is over for me!
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fhtfire
954 posts
May 16, 2007
4:30 PM
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LOL!! I WEAR THE PANTS IN MY HOUSE....she just tells me what color to wear and what leg to put in first....
rock ON
Paul
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Dark Roll
12 posts
May 16, 2007
7:33 PM
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Thanks to all who posted their opinions about Zbestrollerlofts.com. I'm going to check out the NBRC Roller auction and true Roller men in CA instead.
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Missouri-Flyer
555 posts
May 16, 2007
8:12 PM
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now that some funny stuff right there!
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Jerry
Home of "Whispering Wings Loft"
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luis
284 posts
May 17, 2007
9:42 PM
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I always liked the saying"You reap what you sow"If you treat her w respect and vice versa then there will be no prolem.When we care about a person we don't take away what makes them happy.As long as we divide our time properly and don't make em feel less important,all should be OK!!Just thought i'd add my 2 cents..ha,ha,ha.
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Santandercol
1083 posts
May 18, 2007
4:39 PM
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My motto is "Happy Wife,Happy Life!!"
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Kelly
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fhtfire
958 posts
May 18, 2007
11:31 PM
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Amen to that brother!!!
rock and ROLL
Paul
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