pacos bill
1 post
May 23, 2007
6:34 PM
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I have had rollers from 1956 to current date, well a for 2 years I tryed to ruin the breed rasing show rollers. But the question of this post is, what is the orginal orgin, and the breeds used to create the birmingham roller. I have not found anything beyond the Pensom letters, this question has haunted me for years gess I should have asked Bill Pensom in 1956 but was just to thrilled just to have the rollers. I currently am breeding from the 514 line and a pair from the orignal imports also trying some higgins stuff but that a diffrent subject, any help on the history question would be great Thank Bill
Last Edited by on May 23, 2007 6:36 PM
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George Ruiz
297 posts
May 23, 2007
6:37 PM
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Welcome Pecos Bill
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pacos bill
2 posts
May 23, 2007
6:49 PM
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Thank you George hope to find an answer to this history question Thanks Bill
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nicksiders
1727 posts
May 23, 2007
9:49 PM
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Bill,
Welcome to the site.
I will give my opinion from what I have read and heard over the years.
Here goes, I believe the Birmingham Roller was created from the Oriental Roller; the Flying Tippler; English Tumbler; and the Dutch Tumbler.
This just my opinion and like everyone else I do not know exactly how it originated, but from its flying charactoristics; shape and form; feathering; and what I have read this pretty well describes it.
Nick
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Missouri-Flyer
561 posts
May 24, 2007
6:42 AM
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STAN,
is this you?????
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Jerry
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Santandercol
1095 posts
May 24, 2007
7:02 AM
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Jerry,
Sounds like you're still on duty.LOL!!
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Kelly
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Missouri-Flyer
563 posts
May 24, 2007
7:06 AM
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LMAO Kel,
I was just asking...LOL
Actually just sitting here enjoying life, staring at the trees blowing in this 30mph wind.... I havent flown my older "older as in early 07 birds" in 3 days..Their freeking out because I was flying them twice a day for a week....WIND SUCKS!
P.S...I work overnights, usually home by 7:20am
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Jerry
Home of "Whispering Wings Loft"
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pacos bill
3 posts
May 24, 2007
7:33 PM
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Thanks Nick this is along the lines of what I have turned up, except for mabe a Komoner tumbler, hope I spelled that correct, Hey LAMO-Kel all of us out here on the west coast are not flying much as the wind is up this season also, and the FALCONS are just blowing the kits up Thanks Bill
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nicksiders
1740 posts
May 25, 2007
2:47 AM
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ThaT Kormoner Tumbler is a modern day addition. The crest rollers that some have in thier loft I beleve came from that input.
I don't know how to spell it either.(LOL)
Nick
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kcfirl
121 posts
May 25, 2007
6:19 AM
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Nick,
I've seen crests on rollers from pictures Chan Grover had from imports inthe 60's.
Ken
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Santandercol
1097 posts
May 26, 2007
6:13 AM
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Hey Pacos Bill,
Welcome to a great site,eh!!Where on the west coast are you?I'm on Gabriola,one of BCs Gulf Islands.No wind up here lately.No preds hassling my birds either which is totally sweet.Got 31 YBs in the air and they haven't met a pred yet(touch wood).Yearlings are flying at a decent height finally after being chased by falcons alot before the WC prelims.It's quieted down now thanks to the Roller Gawds.
Jer,
Be safe out there at night must get a little crazy at times.
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Kelly
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